Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal
Wenbo Zhu <wenboz@google.com> Sun, 10 October 2010 07:37 UTC
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From: Wenbo Zhu <wenboz@google.com>
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Subject: Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal
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On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 12:32 AM, Ali C. Begen (abegen) <abegen@cisco.com> wrote: > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Wenbo Zhu [mailto:wenboz@google.com] >> Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2010 3:27 PM >> To: Ali C. Begen (abegen) >> Cc: Lars Eggert; Colin Perkins; httpstreaming@ietf.org >> Subject: Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal >> >> On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 9:43 AM, Ali C. Begen (abegen) <abegen@cisco.com> wrote: >> > >> > >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: httpstreaming-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:httpstreaming-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Lars Eggert >> >> Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 4:17 PM >> >> To: Colin Perkins >> >> Cc: httpstreaming@ietf.org >> >> Subject: Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal >> >> >> >> On 2010-10-7, at 14:16, Colin Perkins wrote: >> >> > There are clearly some issues to consider here. What seems to be >> >> > missing from the discussion to me though, is some identification of >> >> > the concrete problems. What protocol pieces do we need, but not have? >> >> > What protocols are problematic, and need enhancement? Is there >> >> > protocol work to do in IETF, or should we be documenting best current >> >> > practices for using the existing protocols and/or relying on other >> >> > bodies to fill the gaps? >> >> > >> >> > The draft-wu-http-streaming-optimization-ps is a good start at such an >> >> > analysis, but doesn't go deep enough to let us decide what work IETF >> >> > should do. >> >> >> >> +1 >> >> >> >> The key question really is "what do you think the IETF needs to do?" >> > >> > I imagine the only work the IETF should do (if we decide to) is the transport and HTTP-layer optimization for better >> streaming performance. >> Or more importantly to standardize existing or proposed optimizations >> for improved interoperability, with which intermediaries will be able > > Wanna give a specific example for "intermediaries"? I think you are referring to something besides the http caches. proxies. > >> to offer direct support for streaming traffic, and different client >> platforms will also be able to improve end-user experience >> independently of vendor or media-protocol specific solutions. > > Sure but is not that all client implementation, which is mostly left for product differentiation? I am interested to find out whether existing implementations (that have successfully deployed HTTP-based streaming over internet) expose streaming resource via open protocols or API's? - Wenbo > > -acbegen > >> - Wenbo >> >> >> > >> > -acbegen >> > >> >> Lars >> > _______________________________________________ >> > httpstreaming mailing list >> > httpstreaming@ietf.org >> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/httpstreaming >> > >
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Ali C. Begen (abegen)
- [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Qin Wu
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Qin Wu
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Wenbo Zhu
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal David A. Bryan
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Ben Niven-Jenkins
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Luby, Michael
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Daniel Park
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Roni Even
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Ali C. Begen (abegen)
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Roni Even
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Ali C. Begen (abegen)
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Kathy McEwen
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Marshall Eubanks
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Ali C. Begen (abegen)
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Ali C. Begen (abegen)
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Kathy McEwen
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Ali C. Begen (abegen)
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Kathy McEwen
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Colin Perkins
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Qin Wu
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Qin Wu
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Qin Wu
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Lars Eggert
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Ali C. Begen (abegen)
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Ali C. Begen (abegen)
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Mark Watson
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Ye-Kui Wang
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Ali C. Begen (abegen)
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Wenbo Zhu
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Ali C. Begen (abegen)
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Wenbo Zhu
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Ali C. Begen (abegen)
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Wenbo Zhu
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Mark Watson
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Ali C. Begen (abegen)
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Wenbo Zhu
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Lars Eggert
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Qin Wu
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Qin Wu
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Qin Wu
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Mark Watson
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Ali C. Begen (abegen)
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Qin Wu
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Qin Wu
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Qin Wu
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Ning Zong
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Mark Watson
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Ali C. Begen (abegen)
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Qin Wu
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Ali C. Begen (abegen)
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Qin Wu
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Qin Wu
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Ali C. Begen (abegen)
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Ning Zong
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Ali C. Begen (abegen)
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Qin Wu
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Wenbo Zhu
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Ye-Kui Wang
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Qin Wu
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Qin Wu
- [httpstreaming] Push Vs Pull (was Re: Current Sta… Ben Niven-Jenkins
- Re: [httpstreaming] Push Vs Pull (was Re: Current… Qin Wu
- Re: [httpstreaming] Push Vs Pull (was Re: Current… Mark Watson
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Ali C. Begen (abegen)
- Re: [httpstreaming] Push Vs Pull (was Re: Current… Ning Zong
- [httpstreaming] Push Vs Pull Re: Current Status a… Qin Wu
- Re: [httpstreaming] Push Vs Pull Re: Current Stat… Qin Wu
- Re: [httpstreaming] Push Vs Pull Re: Current Stat… Thomas Stockhammer
- Re: [httpstreaming] Push Vs Pull Re: Current Stat… Qin Wu
- Re: [httpstreaming] Push Vs Pull Re: Current Stat… Thomas Stockhammer
- Re: [httpstreaming] Push Vs Pull Re: Current Stat… Qin Wu
- Re: [httpstreaming] Push Vs Pull Re: Current Stat… Thomas Stockhammer
- Re: [httpstreaming] Push Vs Pull Re: Current Stat… Wenbo Zhu
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Colin Perkins
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal David R Oran
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Benjamin Niven-Jenkins
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Thomas Stockhammer
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Colin Perkins
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Spencer Dawkins
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Wenbo Zhu
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Ning Zong
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Ning Zong
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Ali C. Begen (abegen)