Re: [httpstreaming] [dispatch] [conex] Q-HTTP

"DIAZ VIZCAINO, LUIS MIGUEL (LUIS MIGUEL)" <luismi.diaz@alcatel-lucent.com> Wed, 17 November 2010 10:17 UTC

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From: "DIAZ VIZCAINO, LUIS MIGUEL (LUIS MIGUEL)" <luismi.diaz@alcatel-lucent.com>
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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 11:17:50 +0100
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Subject: Re: [httpstreaming] [dispatch] [conex] Q-HTTP
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Importance is something heavely subjective. If your file is so critical you will pay for QoS the same as i am paying for gaming, to ensure that flow (file download) is delivered as expected. Moreover, our proposal includes the different requirements for every flow, gaming and critical file downloading will have different needs and network can do different things to ensure both services are honouring its SLA.

You paid the same for bandwidth, but if i pay an "extra" to ensure my gaming experience we are not fair anymore....

Everyone thinks that people in your flight using bussiness class has the right to board first (among other privileges) because the pay more, but on the other hand, Internet should remain "fair"...I dont really see any difference, you obtain what you pay for, if you pay more you will have more (for sure not in an 1:1 way).

INDEED, dont forget that i am personally convinced that this Q-HTTP initiative should help ISPs to lower flat rates. If you only need Internet access for emailing and web surfing you will pay LESS, and people that make extensive use of resources will pay More. That is fairness for me :D.


    Saludos,
         Luismi

-----Mensaje original-----
De: David Singer [mailto:singer@apple.com] 
Enviado el: martes, 16 de noviembre de 2010 19:03
Para: DIAZ VIZCAINO, LUIS MIGUEL (LUIS MIGUEL)
CC: Mikael Abrahamsson; Mike Hammer (hmmr); dispatch@ietf.org; Ingemar@core3.amsl.com; httpstreaming; conex@ietf.org; Johansson S; GARCIA ARANDA, JOSE JAVIER (JOSE JAVIER)
Asunto: Re: [httpstreaming] [dispatch] [conex] Q-HTTP


On Nov 11, 2010, at 10:43 , DIAZ VIZCAINO, LUIS MIGUEL (LUIS MIGUEL) wrote:

>   Now think on Internet. You are playing a Real-Time game and your neighbours are just downloading files. 

I am downloading a critical file that will enable me to respond to an urgent legal issue I have;  you are merely playing games.  You can wait.

I paid the same as you for my bandwidth, so I should get at least fair treatment, if not preferential -:)

David Singer
Multimedia and Software Standards, Apple Inc.