Re: [Hubmib] FW: [802.3.1_MIBS] FW: 802.3.1-2011 ApprovalNotification

Hi, 

I am not sure, I need to consult with the IESG, as the issue of a
non-IETF document obsoleting an IETF document may be rather new. I see
that we did not make such a note on RFC 4188, when work was transferred
to the IEEE 802.1WG. I am copying DBH who wrote RFC 4663. 

To be clear - we are talking only about the meta-data for these RFCs,
not about changing their status to Historic (for which the procedure is
described by an IESG statement -
http://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/designating-rfcs-as-historic.html) 

Thanks and Regards,

Dan 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: hubmib-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:hubmib-bounces@ietf.org] On
> Behalf Of Bert (IETF) Wijnen
> Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 11:24 PM
> To: C. M. Heard
> Cc: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); Hubmib
> Subject: Re: [Hubmib] FW: [802.3.1_MIBS] FW: 802.3.1-2011
> ApprovalNotification
> 
> On 7/16/11 5:24 PM, C. M. Heard wrote:
> > Dan,
> >
> > This new IEEE standard was published on July 1, 2011.  Since it
> > includes updated versions of the MIB modules defined in RFC 2108,
> > RFC 3621, RFC 3635, RFC 3637, RFC 4836, RFC 4837, RFC 4878, and RFC
> > 5066, a question arises: would it be appropriate for the meta-data
> > for these RFCs to indicate that they are obsoleted by IEEE Std
> > 802.3.1?
> 
> Not sure if the RFC-editor can do or normally doies this. Dan, do you
> know.
> 
> If not, I guess we could write 1-2 page RFC that obsoletes the listed
> RFCs with a
> pointer to the IEEE document.
> 
> Bert
> >
> > Mike Heard
> >
> > On Sun, 22 May 2011, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote:
> >> FYI.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Dan
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Howard Frazier [mailto:hfrazier@BROADCOM.COM]
> >> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2011 12:06 AM
> >> To: STDS-802-3-MIB@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
> >> Subject: [802.3.1_MIBS] FW: 802.3.1-2011 Approval Notification
> >>
> >> Dear Members of the IEEE 802.3.1 Ethernet MIB modules Task Force,
> >>
> >> The initial version of P802.3.1/D3.1 Standard for Management
> Information Base (MIB) definitions for Ethernet has been approved as
an
> IEEE standard. See below. Congratulations and thanks to all of you for
> your work on this project.
> >>
> >> A PAR for a revision of the standard is on the agenda for the June
> IEEE-SA Standards Board meeting.
> >>
> >> We will hold a short meeting next Thursday afternoon in conjunction
> with the IEEE 802.3 interim meetings in Incline Village, NV, to plan
> our work for the revision project.
> >>
> >> Howard Frazier
> >> Chair, IEEE 802.3.1 Ethernet MIB modules Task Force
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Law, David [mailto:dlaw@hp.com]
> >> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 12:05 PM
> >> To: Howard Frazier
> >> Subject: FW: 802.3.1-2011 Approval Notification
> >>
> >> Hi Howard,
> >>
> >> On checking I found that I did have the approval notification.
> >>
> >> Congratulations!!
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >>    David
> >> _______________________________________
> >>
> >> From: k.evangelista@ieee.org [mailto:k.evangelista@ieee.org]
> >> Sent: 17 May 2011 14:28
> >> To: Law, David
> >> Cc: p.nikolich@ieee.org; K.Bennett@ieee.org;
k.breitfelder@ieee.org;
> thompson@ieee.org
> >> Subject: 802.3.1-2011 Approval Notification
> >>
> >>
> >> 17 May 2011
> >>
> >> David Law
> >> HP Ltd.
> >> 20 Clayknowes Ave
> >> Musselburgh, East Lothian EH21 6UR
> >> Scotland
> >>
> >> cc:          Paul Nikolich, Sponsor Chair
> >>          Kathryn Bennett, Program Manager
> >>                Kim Breitfelder, Manager Standards Publishing
> >>          Thomas Geoffrey, Negative Balloter
> >>
> >> RE: NEW P802.3.1/D3.1 (C/LM) Standard for Management Information
> Base (MIB) definitions for Ethernet
> >> Dear David,
> >>
> >> I am pleased to inform you that P802.3.1 was approved as a new
> standard by the IEEE-SA Standards Board on 16 May 2011. A copy of the
> document will be forwarded to the Standards Publications Department.
> The editor assigned to work on the project will contact you.
> >>
> >> All IEEE standards shall be updated within five years of approval
by
> the IEEE-SA Standards Board. If the standard is not revised,
> reaffirmed, or withdrawn within five years, the Sponsor will be
> notified that it will be submitted to the Standards Board for
> administrative withdrawal.
> >>
> >> It should be noted that any negative balloters have the right to
> appeal. Please consult the following web pages for information on this
> process:
> >>
> >> http://standards.ieee.org/develop/policies/bylaws/
> >>
> >> http://standards.ieee.org/develop/policies/opman/
> >>
> >> Please contact me if you have any questions prior to speaking with
> your editor.
> >>
> >> Sincerely,
> >> ************************************************
> >> Karen M. Evangelista
> >> IEEE - SA Governance, Administrator
> >> IEEE Standards Activities Department
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