Re: [Hubmib] [MIB-DOCTORS] Questions on IEEE published mib modules vs IETF

Michael MacFaden <mrm@macfaden.com> Wed, 17 August 2011 17:15 UTC

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On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 8:36 AM, Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
<dromasca@avaya.com> wrote:
> There is no equivalent of the IETF maturity levels in the IEEE. There is
> just one level of standards, and there is a re-affirmation process that
> needs to happen every five years, unless the standard was updated
> sooner.

Ok, that's good to know. Unfortunately there is no README.txt file at this URL
  http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/MIBs
to describe when files are posted here at what part of the standards
process this is/such as being up for reaffirmation. Am
going to the pdf's just to make sure.

> The MIB modules defined in RFC 3635 and RFC 4836 (and a few more) are in
> the scope of IEEE 802.3.1 which was approved as an IEEE standard a few
> months ago. We entertained a discussion at and around the Quebec meeting
> and decided to mark the RFCs as obsolete by the IEEE standards and point
> to these, but not transit them to Historic (not yet in any case). Bert
> will write when he gets some time a short Informational RFC to document
> this transition.

Makes sense to me, have already started using IEEE8021-BRIDGE-MIB,
IEEE8021-Q-BRIDGE, and others in products so would
prefer new to use correct IEEE versions when they become available.

Thanks again,
Mike MacFaden