Re: [hybi] Experiment comparing Upgrade and CONNECT handshakes

Scott Ferguson <ferg@caucho.com> Mon, 29 November 2010 18:47 UTC

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Subject: Re: [hybi] Experiment comparing Upgrade and CONNECT handshakes
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Adam Barth wrote:
> 2010/11/29 Scott Ferguson <ferg@caucho.com>:
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>> Adam Barth wrote:
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>>> This change is already incorporated in the current version of
>>> draft-abarth-websocket-handshake.
>>>       
>> This really shows the disadvantage of the "procedural" style of spec
>> writing. By obfuscating the intention of the spec, you make it difficult
>> to see changes or to evaluate what the proposal is doing.
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> Indeed.  We should be able to get all the editorial issues sorted out
> once we've got consensus on the technical issues.  For the time being,
> draft-abarth-websocket-handshake just matches the editorial style of
> the corresponding section of draft-ietf-hybi-thewebsocketprotocol.
>   

You're missing the point.

It's hard to evaluate the proposal for technical purposes the way you've 
written it. Many of the people on this list, including me, are very busy 
people and really don't have the time to wade through a proposal that's 
deliberately written in an obfuscatory fashion.

The problem has nothing to do with the final language; it's about 
communicating proposals for the people on this list.

-- Scott

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