Re: [hybi] Framing Take VI (a compromise proposal)
Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ) <ifette@google.com> Fri, 13 August 2010 21:20 UTC
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Subject: Re: [hybi] Framing Take VI (a compromise proposal)
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On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 2:16 PM, Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch> wrote: > 2010/8/12 Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ) <ifette@google.com>: > > > > That said, here's the proposal: > > This seems overly complex. In particular: > > - I don't see the need for explicit extension lengths. > > If you don't want to use any extensions, which I assume you don't, then set EXT=0 and you don't have to set any extension lengths. Given that you don't seem to want to use extensions, I'm not sure why you seem to have a preference for how extension data is stated. > - I don't see what having both a short length and a long length gets > us. Saving 7 bytes seems like a very minimal gain, especially when > considered in the context of the rest of the header and the IP and TCP > overhead. > > An alternate would be to use a variable length. I really don't care that much. > - Supporting fragmentation today is premature. We have no experience > with how people use this protocol, we shouldn't be adding such > features yet. Six months from now, sure, once we can quantify what it > is people actually need. > > This point has been argued extensively enough on the list that I don't think anything I say here is going to be new. > - I don't see why we would need to flag fragmentation frames using > reserved bits rather than just using the frame type byte mechanic. > Just define four frame types for text and four frame types for binary > when we add binary (not fragmented, fragment start, fragment middle, > fragment end). > > -- > Ian Hickson >
- Re: [hybi] Framing Take VI (a compromise proposal) Patrick McManus
- Re: [hybi] Framing Take VI (a compromise proposal) Scott Ferguson
- [hybi] Framing Take VI (a compromise proposal) Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ)
- Re: [hybi] Framing Take VI (a compromise proposal) Ian Hickson
- Re: [hybi] Framing Take VI (a compromise proposal) Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ)
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- Re: [hybi] Framing Take VI (a compromise proposal) Takeshi Yoshino
- Re: [hybi] Framing Take VI (a compromise proposal) Willy Tarreau
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- Re: [hybi] Framing Take VI (a compromise proposal) John Tamplin
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- Re: [hybi] Framing Take VI (a compromise proposal) Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ)
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- Re: [hybi] Framing Take VI (a compromise proposal) Takeshi Yoshino
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- Re: [hybi] Framing Take VI (a compromise proposal) John Tamplin
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- Re: [hybi] Framing Take VI (a compromise proposal) John Tamplin
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