Re: [hybi] Frame size
Justin Erenkrantz <justin@erenkrantz.com> Sat, 17 April 2010 07:31 UTC
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Subject: Re: [hybi] Frame size
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On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 12:18 AM, Greg Wilkins <gregw@webtide.com> wrote: > I believe the vast majority of people here agree with the view that > the target audience for websocket is Browser developers and Server Developers. > ie expert developers. I know I'm just piling on here, but I will add that I believe that the JavaScript APIs should certainly be aimed towards casual developers, but that's not a legitimate reason to dumb down the wire protocol to the point of gross inefficiency. I do believe that over time the server developers will converge on something resembling a common pattern - it will take time, but I think it is achievable. Yet, that convergence will only happen if sites adopt Web Socket. It is more important to me to have a system that is more efficient than the status quo than it is for someone who has never seen an IETF RFC or a wire protocol in their life to deploy a half-backed implement in a weekend. I would rather that individual spend the weekend writing their application and not getting bogged down in protocol minutiae. Furthermore, if Web Socket fails to improve the best that what we can offer now, this is all just a pointless exercise anyway. -- justin
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Justin Erenkrantz
- [hybi] Frame size Thomson, Martin
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Roberto Peon
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Scott Ferguson
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Scott Ferguson
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Roberto Peon
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Ian Hickson
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Scott Ferguson
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Thomson, Martin
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Justin Erenkrantz
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Scott Ferguson
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Thomson, Martin
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Jamie Lokier
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Mike Belshe
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Mike Belshe
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Ian Hickson
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Ian Hickson
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Thomson, Martin
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Mike Belshe
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Ian Hickson
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Jamie Lokier
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Thomson, Martin
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Jamie Lokier
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Mike Belshe
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Jamie Lokier
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Jamie Lokier
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Thomson, Martin
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Jamie Lokier
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Ian Hickson
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Mike Belshe
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Anne van Kesteren
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Thomson, Martin
- Re: [hybi] handshake security (was: Frame size) Thomson, Martin
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Ian Hickson
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Scott Ferguson
- Re: [hybi] handshake security (was: Frame size) Ian Hickson
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Mike Belshe
- Re: [hybi] handshake security (was: Frame size) Thomson, Martin
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Scott Ferguson
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Mike Belshe
- Re: [hybi] handshake security (was: Frame size) Ian Hickson
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Jamie Lokier
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Jamie Lokier
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Jamie Lokier
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Jamie Lokier
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Mike Belshe
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Mike Belshe
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Scott Ferguson
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Mike Belshe
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Jamie Lokier
- Re: [hybi] handshake security (was: Frame size) Jamie Lokier
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Lars Eggert
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Jamie Lokier