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Re: [hybi] HyBi WG update

Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu> Thu, 22 July 2010 01:00 UTC

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From: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>
To: Adam Barth <ietf@adambarth.com>
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On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 05:42:36PM -0700, Adam Barth wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Greg Wilkins <gregw@webtide.com> wrote:
> > On 22 July 2010 08:44, Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch> wrote:
> >> On Wed, 21 Jul 2010, L.Wood@surrey.ac.uk wrote:
> >> > You don't need implementers implementing from the latest revision of the
> >> > draft.
> >> >
> >> > You need implementers implementing from a _considered_ version of the
> >> > draft, and a fixed referencable point at that.
> >>
> >> Sure, but given that implementers are going to implement the spec
> >> regardless, I'd much rather they implemented the latest version, with all
> >> the bugs removed, rather than a version that we _know_ is buggy.
> >
> > How can anybody implement a constantly moving target into which discussed
> > speculative ideas are added?
> 
> This is standard operating procedure for browser vendors.  If we
> waited for specs to stop moving before gaining implementation
> experience, we'd never get anything done.  If you'd like to see how
> this works in practice, I recommend looking over the history of the
> HTML parsing algorithm in HTML5.

And in fact, it's thanks to early implementers among browser editors
that we know this version does not work anymore !

Willy

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