Re: [hybi] HyBi WG update

<L.Wood@surrey.ac.uk> Thu, 22 July 2010 01:01 UTC

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Internal parsing of received data is a bit different from back-and-forth
interaction between client/server.

The history of HTML is not the history of HTTP.

On 22 Jul 2010, at 01:42, Adam Barth wrote:

> On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Greg Wilkins <gregw@webtide.com> wrote:
>> On 22 July 2010 08:44, Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch> wrote:
>>> On Wed, 21 Jul 2010, L.Wood@surrey.ac.uk wrote:
>>>> You don't need implementers implementing from the latest revision of the
>>>> draft.
>>>> 
>>>> You need implementers implementing from a _considered_ version of the
>>>> draft, and a fixed referencable point at that.
>>> 
>>> Sure, but given that implementers are going to implement the spec
>>> regardless, I'd much rather they implemented the latest version, with all
>>> the bugs removed, rather than a version that we _know_ is buggy.
>> 
>> How can anybody implement a constantly moving target into which discussed
>> speculative ideas are added?
> 
> This is standard operating procedure for browser vendors.  If we
> waited for specs to stop moving before gaining implementation
> experience, we'd never get anything done.  If you'd like to see how
> this works in practice, I recommend looking over the history of the
> HTML parsing algorithm in HTML5.
> 
> Adam
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