Re: [hybi] [dispatch] WebTransport Mailing List

Mikkel Fahnøe Jørgensen <mikkelfj@gmail.com> Wed, 31 July 2019 20:43 UTC

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Same as for WebAssembly and WebSocket when not used with a browser with
HTTP.

For example MQTT over WebSocket to penetrate firewalls has very little to
do with Web.

On 31 July 2019 at 22.37.39, Peter Thatcher (
pthatcher=40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org) wrote:

What's wrong with "WebTransport"?  It seems like a good name to me.  With
what is it confusable?

On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 6:50 AM Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net>; wrote:

> +1.
>
> Naming things is hard, but when they're generic and confusable with other
> things, it's worth the pain.
>
>
> > On 29 Jul 2019, at 11:53 pm, Martin J. Dürst <duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp>;
> wrote:
> >
> > I think Eliot's question shows that "WebTransport" may greatly benefit
> > from a better name (or acronym).
> >
> > Regards,   Martin.
> >
> > P.S.: I already subscribed to the list.
> >
> > On 2019/07/30 06:32, Victor Vasiliev wrote:
> >> Hi Eliot,
> >>
> >> WebTransport is roughly "WebSockets, but for unreliable transport",
> >> currently described in
> >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-vvv-webtransport-overview-00 and
> >> https://wicg.github.io/web-transport/.  It's not related to BCP 190
> >> discussion that happened at the other portion of ARTAREA meeting.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>   Victor.
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 5:29 PM Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com>; wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Victor,
> >>>
> >>> Sorry if this has been covered, but for those of us out of the room,
> could
> >>> you provide two or three sentences as to what the mailing list is
> supposed
> >>> to cover?  Is this more BCP 190 stuff or something more generic or just
> >>> something else?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Eliot
> >>>
> >>> On 29 Jul 2019, at 22:58, Victor Vasiliev <
> >>> vasilvv=40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org>; wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hello everyone,
> >>>
> >>> Judging from the in-person discussions in Montreal, there appears to
> be a
> >>> decent amount of interest in the WebTransport work.  Everyone
> interested is
> >>> invited to join our mailing list:
> >>>
> >>>   https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/webtransport
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>>   Victor.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
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