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Re: [hybi] An alternative design for the web socket handshake

Erik Möller <emoller@opera.com> Tue, 18 May 2010 08:30 UTC

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Subject: Re: [hybi] An alternative design for the web socket handshake
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On Tue, 18 May 2010 03:29:34 +0200, Roy T. Fielding <fielding@gbiv.com>  
wrote:

> It would be far more interesting to me (and beneficial to the net)
> if the vendors working on this problem would consider using their
> considerable influence on network consumers to deploy a real
> solution using a connectionless protocol as transport.  I don't
> care which one, and I don't care if it takes years to deploy on
> the wider net, just so long as it isn't actively harmful.
> Game developers do it all the time, and proxy vendors have
> adjusted their firewall options accordingly.
>

I'd love to see a discussion on a connectionless protocol started. It's  
really the last piece missing before game developers would seriously  
consider HTML5 a viable platform. I know a lot of them are already  
starting to look into it, but being stuck with something built on top TCP  
will make many hesitant to try their hand at it.

-- 
Erik Möller
Core Developer
Opera Software

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