[hybi] Proposal: HTTP upgrade process
Greg Wilkins <gregw@webtide.com> Mon, 16 August 2010 01:23 UTC
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Subject: [hybi] Proposal: HTTP upgrade process
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All, there has been a lot of posting about the -76/-00 style handshake, it's HTTP compliance issues, it's fast fail (or otherwise) characteristics, it security features etc. I don't think any of the conversations have been very productive nor is there any apparent convergence on a solution. I think the reason for his is that we are starting with a solutions (the 8 random bytes etc.) and trying to reverse engineer the requirements for it and a retrospective consensus for it's inclusion into the draft. Thus I would like to propose that we re-start consideration of the handshake with the -75 style handshake and try to move forward from there by identifying problems/requirements, discussing solutions and then applying the consensus solution to move forward. Instead of contributors having to make the case of why the random 8-bytes etc. should be excluded from the protocol, those that support random bytes should clearly make the case for their inclusion. We need to identify the issues with a simple upgrade request, and then discuss various solutions as to how to address these - it may be that the random 8 bytes solution is the best solution, but if so, then there can be no harm in conducting a process that verifies this is the case. Note that I'm not saying that we should immediately publish a -01 draft with the handshake reverted, as I think it would be sufficient for us just to restart our discussions from that simpler base (but I would not object to a reset -01 draft either). regards
- Re: [hybi] Proposal: HTTP upgrade process Vladimir Katardjiev
- [hybi] Proposal: HTTP upgrade process Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] Proposal: HTTP upgrade process Willy Tarreau
- Re: [hybi] Proposal: HTTP upgrade process Maciej Stachowiak
- Re: [hybi] Proposal: HTTP upgrade process Daniel Stenberg
- Re: [hybi] Proposal: HTTP upgrade process Shelby Moore
- Re: [hybi] Proposal: HTTP upgrade process Vladimir Katardjiev
- Re: [hybi] Proposal: HTTP upgrade process Willy Tarreau
- Re: [hybi] Proposal: HTTP upgrade process Vladimir Katardjiev
- Re: [hybi] Proposal: HTTP upgrade process Salvatore Loreto
- Re: [hybi] Proposal: HTTP upgrade process Shelby Moore