Re: [hybi] Ticket#1 Http Compliance
"Anne van Kesteren" <annevk@opera.com> Thu, 13 May 2010 10:38 UTC
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Subject: Re: [hybi] Ticket#1 Http Compliance
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On Thu, 13 May 2010 10:28:15 +0200, Greg Wilkins <gregw@webtide.com> wrote: > Anne van Kesteren wrote: >> I think it would be good if proposals for new requirements indicated >> that to satisfy them changes to the draft would be required. This >> especially has been a long-standing debate and having it as a debate on >> requirements does not seem like a good idea to me. > > I believe that the intent of the chairs to focus the discussion on > requirements is exactly to help resolve such long standing > debates as HTTP compliance. > > If some believe that HTTP compliance is a requirement, while others > think that it is not, then we will never reach agreement on a mechanism > that breaks HTTP compliance. We first need to resolve if it > is a requirement or not. > > It may be that consensus is that we don't need to be HTTP compliant and > then the next time I argue "but you can't do that because it is > not HTTP compliant", I can be politely told that it is not a > requirement and thus we can get on with the rest of the protocol. I guess I don't agree with the requirement then. I don't believe that shifting the debate to discussing requirements instead is a good idea. To me it makes everything less concrete and far more vague as to what the intentions are of people proposing the requirements. We don't necessarily need to have a (lack of a) requirement to do what you say. We could just make a WG decision. -- Anne van Kesteren http://annevankesteren.nl/
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