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Re: [hybi] email granularity, was: WebSockets feedback

Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch> Thu, 15 April 2010 19:10 UTC

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Subject: Re: [hybi] email granularity, was: WebSockets feedback
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On Thu, 15 Apr 2010, Pieter Hintjens wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de> wrote:
> > On 15.04.2010 08:23, Pieter Hintjens wrote:
> >>
> >> tl;dr
> >> ...
> >
> > Not helpful; both you quoting all of this and adding a single comment 
> > (as far as I can tell), and the original mega mail as well.
> 
> Sorry for top-quoting, that was lazy of me.  I started to parse Ian's 
> email but by page 5 or so, had to give up.
> 
> Ian, I think this has been said before, and I don't recall anyone ever 
> asking for your batch responses... nor have I ever seen this on any 
> other list.  Posting such mega emails is a guaranteed way to not get 
> responses.  How to even discuss?  You are in effect (re)launching 100+ 
> threads in parallel.
> 
> As Julian says, please just respond like everyone else to emails on a 
> topic-per-topic basis.

This has been the way Web Socket feedback has been handled for years 
before this working group was created, and over the years I've had 
multiple people tell me they prefer this model. However, I'm happy to do 
whatever the chairs want me to do.

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