Re: [hybi] Frame size
Scott Ferguson <ferg@caucho.com> Sat, 17 April 2010 17:45 UTC
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Subject: Re: [hybi] Frame size
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Greg Wilkins wrote: > In fact, I would argue for a 16k max frame size with 2 > bits given over to help with partitioning and aggregation, > but with no requirement that an endpoint can handle > aggregation and partitioning (unless they indicate they > can in the handshake). > 16k is fine, but why are two bits needed instead of one? One bit is needed for final vs non-final frame in a message, but I don't see how the second bit would be used. (Although, hmm, are you thinking in a multiplexing context where the second bit could mean "use the same channel"? Or messaging "use the same sender/recipient"? That would be a useful capability.) I'd think basic chunking would be a requirement like HTTP/1.1, not a negotiated capability, to support messages over 16k and also to the reduce the round trip latency as discussed in the other thread. For example, a high performance client might pipeline the first request frame(s) with the HTTP header since, in reality, it expects the server to understand the requested protocol, but it would need some fundamental, non-negotiated capabilities like fragmenting for the pipelining to work. -- Scott > cheers > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > hybi mailing list > hybi@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hybi > > > >
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- Re: [hybi] Frame size Justin Erenkrantz
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Roberto Peon
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Scott Ferguson
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Scott Ferguson
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Roberto Peon
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Ian Hickson
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Scott Ferguson
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Justin Erenkrantz
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Scott Ferguson
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Thomson, Martin
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Thomson, Martin
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Jamie Lokier
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Mike Belshe
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Mike Belshe
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Ian Hickson
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Ian Hickson
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Mike Belshe
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Ian Hickson
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Jamie Lokier
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Thomson, Martin
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Jamie Lokier
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Mike Belshe
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Jamie Lokier
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Jamie Lokier
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Thomson, Martin
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Jamie Lokier
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Thomson, Martin
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Ian Hickson
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Mike Belshe
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Anne van Kesteren
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Thomson, Martin
- Re: [hybi] handshake security (was: Frame size) Thomson, Martin
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Ian Hickson
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Scott Ferguson
- Re: [hybi] handshake security (was: Frame size) Ian Hickson
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Mike Belshe
- Re: [hybi] handshake security (was: Frame size) Thomson, Martin
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Scott Ferguson
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Mike Belshe
- Re: [hybi] handshake security (was: Frame size) Ian Hickson
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Jamie Lokier
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Jamie Lokier
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Jamie Lokier
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Jamie Lokier
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Mike Belshe
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Mike Belshe
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Scott Ferguson
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Mike Belshe
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Jamie Lokier
- Re: [hybi] handshake security (was: Frame size) Jamie Lokier
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Lars Eggert
- Re: [hybi] Frame size Jamie Lokier