Re: [hybi] Comments about draft-13
Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@aliax.net> Thu, 08 September 2011 09:11 UTC
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2011/9/8 Alexey Melnikov <alexey.melnikov@isode.com>: >> 2011/9/2 Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@aliax.net>: >> >>> >>> 3) Section 4.2.2 does include nothing about a 4XX HTTP response code >>> for the case in which the WS clients offers N WS subprotocols and the >>> server supports no one of them. Current text states that the server >>> MUST reply 101 without Sec-WebSocket-Protocol, so the client would >>> then MUST Fail_The_Connection. >>> >>> There has been a long thread recently suggesting that in that case >>> (and just in *that* case) the server whould *reject* the GET request >>> with a *specific* HTTP status code which would mean "I don't support >>> any of your suggested WS protocols, so I cannot accept the WS session >>> because I have no idea what we are supposed to speak". >>> >>> This is a new protocol, so feel *free* to create a new "HTTP" response >>> code for this case, maybe: >>> >>> 488 WebSocket SubProtocol Not Supported >>> >>> As I explained in other thread, this status code could help the human >>> user and the client application developer to realize that his software >>> is not up-to-date with the service requeriments ("your programm is too >>> old, upgrade please"). >>> >> >> >> Hi, any new consideration about this? >> Thanks a lot. >> > After thinking more about this: I would prefer to leave the current > behaviour as is: > > C: I would like to use either subprotocol "foo" or "bar" > S: 101 (WebSocket handshake), but speak neither > > at this point the client can decide to close the connection, or decide that > it can cope with lack of the subprotocols. > > You propose: > C: I would like to use either subprotocol "foo" or "bar" > S: 488 speak neither > > At this point if the client can cope with lack of support for both "foo" and > "bar", it has to redo the handshake without mentioning them. > Otherwise it can close the connection. No, the client cannot close the connection because the server replied 488 so there is no established WS connection. > > I don't think there is a significant difference between 2 cases: the number > of round trips is the same and the same behaviour can be achieved easily in > either case. This is a negotiation. If Client wants to speak "foo" or "bar" but the server does not support any of them, the server should reply 488 (such response could/MUST include a Sec-WebSocket-Protocol with the subprotocols the server supports). I see no reason for the server to reply 101 in the case it does not support any subprotocol offered by the client. -- Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@aliax.net>
- [hybi] Comments about draft-13 Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [hybi] Comments about draft-13 Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [hybi] Comments about draft-13 Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [hybi] Comments about draft-13 Richard L. Barnes
- Re: [hybi] Comments about draft-13 Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [hybi] Comments about draft-13 Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [hybi] Comments about draft-13 Richard L. Barnes
- Re: [hybi] Comments about draft-13 Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [hybi] Comments about draft-13 Richard L. Barnes
- Re: [hybi] Comments about draft-13 Philipp Serafin
- Re: [hybi] Comments about draft-13 Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [hybi] Comments about draft-13 Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [hybi] Comments about draft-13 Philipp Serafin
- Re: [hybi] Comments about draft-13 Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [hybi] Comments about draft-13 Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [hybi] Comments about draft-13 Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [hybi] Comments about draft-13 Richard L. Barnes
- Re: [hybi] Comments about draft-13 Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [hybi] Comments about draft-13 Richard L. Barnes
- Re: [hybi] Comments about draft-13 Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] Comments about draft-13 Bjoern Hoehrmann
- Re: [hybi] Comments about draft-13 Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [hybi] Comments about draft-13 Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] Comments about draft-13 John Tamplin
- Re: [hybi] Comments about draft-13 Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] Comments about draft-13 John Tamplin
- Re: [hybi] Comments about draft-13 Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] Comments about draft-13 John Tamplin
- Re: [hybi] Comments about draft-13 Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] Comments about draft-13 Bjoern Hoehrmann
- Re: [hybi] Comments about draft-13 Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [hybi] Comments about draft-13 Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [hybi] Comments about draft-13 Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] Comments about draft-13 Joonas Lehtolahti
- Re: [hybi] Comments about draft-13 Peter Saint-Andre