Re: [hybi] It's time to ship

[Greg Wilkins <[e-mail]>]

On 10 January 2011 01:46, Adam Barth <[e-mail]> wrote:
> Thanks for your feedback.  I'd encourage you not to implement this
> protocol then.

Note also that this discussion is not about implementation.

If browsers implement some protocol, then the servers and
intermediaries will do their best to support it as we have always
done, no matter how ill conceived the ideas or how little the server
side concerns have been considered.

But implementation is entirely different to standardisation, which is
the point of the discussions here.   The get standardisation at the
IETF, you need consensus from all the main constituencies and from the
wider IETF community.  If the browser vendors chose to ignore the
concerns of the intermediaries and server side, that does not make
those concerns go away - they remain and almost certainly means will
be found to address them that will in all probability be proprietary
and/or disparate, thus making the chances of WS becoming an IETF
standard even less likely.