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Re: [hybi] WS framing alternative

"Roy T. Fielding" <fielding@gbiv.com> Mon, 02 November 2009 18:26 UTC

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On Nov 2, 2009, at 3:08 AM, Martin J. Dürst wrote:

> Hello Roy,
>
> You say that waka was already capable of all of this back in 2001.  
> Can you give us some pointers?

I said that the design included all of that -- length-delimited
framing, tokenized constants, bidirectional requests, and
interleaved messages (channel-based multiplexing).

> What I found is http://gbiv.com/protocols/waka/200211_fielding_apachecon.ppt 
> , which is quite interesting, and says (p. 19):
>
> waka
> * Has not yet been fully specified
> * Has not yet been implemented
> * Has not yet been deployed
>
> * Will eventually be proposed as ASF project
> * Will eventually be submitted to IETF

Yep, all of those are still true and equally unfinished.

> * Will have its progress tracked:
>  http://www.apache.org/~fielding/waka/

Er, completely forgot about that one.

....Roy

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