Re: [hybi] Ticket#1 Http Compliance
Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com> Thu, 13 May 2010 09:21 UTC
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Subject: Re: [hybi] Ticket#1 Http Compliance
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On May 13, 2010, at 1:28 AM, Greg Wilkins wrote: > Anne van Kesteren wrote: >> On Wed, 12 May 2010 15:41:53 +0200, Greg Wilkins <gregw@webtide.com> wrote: >>> Attached is a proposed diff (from me as individual - not as >>> requirements editor) to the requirements document for HTTP Compliance. >> >> I think it would be good if proposals for new requirements indicated >> that to satisfy them changes to the draft would be required. This >> especially has been a long-standing debate and having it as a debate on >> requirements does not seem like a good idea to me. > > > Anne, > > I believe that the intent of the chairs to focus the discussion on > requirements is exactly to help resolve such long standing > debates as HTTP compliance. > > If some believe that HTTP compliance is a requirement, while others > think that it is not, then we will never reach agreement on a mechanism > that breaks HTTP compliance. We first need to resolve if it > is a requirement or not. > > It may be that consensus is that we don't need to be HTTP compliant and > then the next time I argue "but you can't do that because it is > not HTTP compliant", I can be politely told that it is not a > requirement and thus we can get on with the rest of the protocol. One possible risk: we might fail to reach consensus on a requirement stated in the abstract, when actually it might be possible to reach agreement on a specific technical solution that happens to satisfy everyone's personal requirements. Sometimes it's much harder to evaluate the practical consequences of an abstract requirement than a specific technical solution. Regards, Maciej
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