Re: [hybi] Clarify the role of closing handshake
Takeshi Yoshino <tyoshino@google.com> Tue, 15 February 2011 23:53 UTC
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On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 14:49, Justin Lee <jlee@antwerkz.com> wrote: > > > On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Takeshi Yoshino <tyoshino@google.com>wrote: > >> On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 13:45, <Yutaka_Takeda@playstation.sony.com>wrote: >> >>> >>> Okay, I admit my example was bad. >>> >>> Just to be clear, even with this code: >>> >>> websocket.send("a-message-needs-to-reach-server") >>> websocket.close() >>> >>> From your opinions, programmers should not expect that the message always >>> reach the server. (granted) >>> >>> >> Yes, this point should be noted in the spec, or developers may >> misunderstand. >> > > In the grizzly version, I actually just queue up the close frame behind the > others. Is this not what should happen? Should the close frame jump to the > front of the line? > > At least I can say that is not incorrect behavior. Whether "Send something" in *start the WebSocket closing handshake* algorithm should break in or just queue behind the others is not specified in the spec, I think. IMO, we should queue Close frame behind the others. If close() breaks in, preceding send()s are cancelled. That's bad programming model though I can imagine some implementation might have urgent_close() or something that breaks in if they need. FYI, we queue a Close frame behind the others in pywebsocket, too. Here what we're talking about is how to let the client know if "a-message-needs-to-reach-server" is received by the other peer or not by using closing handshake. Even "a-message-needs-to-reach-server" is queued before a Close frame, it's possible that it cannot make it to the other peer for some network problem, etc.
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- Re: [hybi] Clarify the role of closing handshake Gabriel Montenegro
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- Re: [hybi] Clarify the role of closing handshake Gabriel Montenegro
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- Re: [hybi] Clarify the role of closing handshake Gabriel Montenegro
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- Re: [hybi] Clarify the role of closing handshake Salvatore Loreto
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- Re: [hybi] Clarify the role of closing handshake Takeshi Yoshino
- Re: [hybi] Clarify the role of closing handshake Takeshi Yoshino
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- Re: [hybi] Clarify the role of closing handshake Takeshi Yoshino
- Re: [hybi] Clarify the role of closing handshake Takeshi Yoshino
- Re: [hybi] Clarify the role of closing handshake Gabriel Montenegro
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- Re: [hybi] Clarify the role of closing handshake Yutaka_Takeda
- Re: [hybi] Clarify the role of closing handshake Gabriel Montenegro
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- Re: [hybi] Clarify the role of closing handshake Takeshi Yoshino
- Re: [hybi] Clarify the role of closing handshake Yutaka_Takeda
- Re: [hybi] Clarify the role of closing handshake Brodie Thiesfield
- Re: [hybi] Clarify the role of closing handshake Yutaka_Takeda
- Re: [hybi] Clarify the role of closing handshake Takeshi Yoshino
- Re: [hybi] Clarify the role of closing handshake Takeshi Yoshino
- Re: [hybi] Clarify the role of closing handshake Takeshi Yoshino
- Re: [hybi] Clarify the role of closing handshake Gabriel Montenegro
- Re: [hybi] Clarify the role of closing handshake Yutaka_Takeda