Re: [hybi] Is there a traffic jam?

[Mark Lentczner <[e-mail]>]

Wow - the only traffic jam seems to be in my in-box! My this mailing  
list has gotten popular!

I tend to agree with the arguments against a minimal protocol such as  
WebSockets:
+1: there's nothing wrong using existing libraries for things like  
HTTP, XML, UTF-8, etc...
+1: inexperienced programmers are going to code to an API like CGI,  
not write the whole server
+1: you can make a good, easy to use API even for a rich protocol: to  
wit: CGI
+1: if the protocol is too minimal, the commonly used stuff will be  
implemented up the stack, which means:
	a) it will be non-interoperable
and	b)the infrastructure will not be able to interact with it

Other things I noticed:
- HTTP over SCTP *does* seem interesting. It might be nice to separate  
out the channeling and asynchrony from the bi-directionality. Now if  
we could do that, and have a fall back for today (not much SCTP in  
stock OSes...)... that is an interesting direction...
- Tunneling through existing firewall and proxy constraints seems to  
keep rearing its head. This feels to me like a separate concern: We  
should design what we think is useful, expect that in a few years  
firewalls and proxies will adapt, *and* design a pure HTTP fallback  
that will allow us to "get on with it" today.

	- Mark

Mark Lentczner
Sr. Systems Architect
Technology Integration
Linden Lab

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