Re: [hybi] how do we move forward on agreeing on framing?
Dave Cridland <dave@cridland.net> Thu, 19 August 2010 07:42 UTC
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On Thu Aug 19 06:28:28 2010, John Tamplin wrote: > Is this something we can all get behind, even if it doesn't do > everything we > want, in the interest of getting something useful done soon? If > not, what > specific changes would be necessary for you to agree? I'd feel more comfortable with knowing that the extension framing (not actual support) was done. Otherwise, any extension mechanism is going to smell like a real hack, even if it's possible. I also worry about actors seeing extensions and choking on them, whether that's intermediaries or whatever. Finally, it's not clear to me if extension data needs to be per-message or per-frame - I can't think of a per-frame use-case, but still, this effects possible extension mechanisms heavily. It could be my fears are misplaced, of course, and I'm willing to be persuaded, but this is my current stance. Aside from this one issue, this design - or the previous one, in fact - are fine with me. I marginally prefer this one, modulo the absence of an extension data block. It'd be useful at this point, though, to produce a new draft containing this design, which seems to have broad support if not yet actual consensus - ie, this should become the group's current working design. Dave. -- Dave Cridland - mailto:dave@cridland.net - xmpp:dwd@dave.cridland.net - acap://acap.dave.cridland.net/byowner/user/dwd/bookmarks/ - http://dave.cridland.net/ Infotrope Polymer - ACAP, IMAP, ESMTP, and Lemonade
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