Re: [hybi] Reliable message delivery (was Re: Technical feedback.)
Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch> Wed, 03 February 2010 10:23 UTC
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Subject: Re: [hybi] Reliable message delivery (was Re: Technical feedback.)
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On Wed, 3 Feb 2010, Graham Klyne wrote: > Ian Hickson wrote: > > The server and the client are typically written by the same person. > > If this is the basis on which the protocol is being specified, I don't > understand why it's being done in a standards body. So that the platform on top of which the client is written can be interoperably implemented such that it is possible for the clients to run on any implementation of the platform interoperably. To clarify the terminology, from the perspective of the subprotocol running on Web Sockets, the platform is the browser with the Web Socket API, and the client is the JS code invoking the API, and implementing the client part of the subprotocol. The server implements both the Web Socket protocol and the subprotocol running over it. The subprotocol is like HTTP, IRC, FTP, etc; Web Sockets is like TCP, and the platform is like the OS's network stack. Except everything is moved up one level. HTH, -- Ian Hickson U+1047E )\._.,--....,'``. fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A /, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'
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