Re: [I18n-discuss] [arch-d] Closing the list

Pete Resnick <resnick@episteme.net> Wed, 13 May 2020 20:37 UTC

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From: Pete Resnick <resnick@episteme.net>
To: John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com>
Cc: Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net>, Nico Williams <nico@cryptonector.com>, art-ads@ietf.org, i18n-discuss@iab.org, architecture-discuss@ietf.org
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Subject: Re: [I18n-discuss] [arch-d] Closing the list
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On 13 May 2020, at 15:32, John C Klensin wrote:

> --On Wednesday, May 13, 2020 16:19 -0400 Jared Mauch
> <jared@puck.nether.net> wrote:
>
>> 	I think the reason was a bit vague in my note, but the
>> criteria we used to review were:
>>
>> a) last activity of list
>> b) related to prior IAB workshops/activities
>> c) list was IAB sponsored
>>
>> 	We found many lists that were not used and this one fell
>> through the cracks in my steps to send out notes.  If the
>> community want it left open I personally don't think anyone
>> will object.
>
> Jared,
>
> Unless the IAB is specifically interested in the topic, if
> keeping it as an IAB-sponsored list requires that someone from
> the IAB actively monitor it and approve postings and/or
> memberships, my guess is that it is better turned into just
> another IETF non-WG list with the subscriber list moved over
> except for anyone who wants to opt out.  Personally, I'd prefer
> that the IAB were actively interested and I like the very low
> noise situation, but, as people keep reminding me, I had a pony
> many years ago and would like another one.
>
>   john

FWIW: I believe this list is actually just an alias on iab.org and 
already exists as i18n-discuss@ietf.org. If the IAB wants to simply 
ditch the alias and we update the notes on the non-WG list page, that 
would work too. But I don't care either way.

pr
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