Re: [I18ndir] I18ndir early review of draft-schanzen-gns-10

"Independent Submissions Editor (Eliot Lear)" <rfc-ise@rfc-editor.org> Mon, 07 March 2022 16:10 UTC

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Subject: Re: [I18ndir] I18ndir early review of draft-schanzen-gns-10
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Can I ask that we suspend this discussion for a day?  Heads seem to be 
running hot.

Thanks,

Eliot (ISE)

On 07.03.22 16:24, Christian Grothoff wrote:
> On 3/7/22 10:09, Jiankang Yao wrote:
>>>>> 4)ICANN manages the DNS name root space. I suggest to ask some
>> experts from
>>>>> ICANN to review this document.
>>>>>   
>>>> This is a name space NOT managed by ICANN.  The issues we are
>> concerned about are interactions with the DNS, and of course i18n.
>>>   
>> Yes, it is NOT managed by ICANN, but "the use of GNS may clash with the
>> DNS namespace".
>>
>> The DNS name space (common global identfiers) is very important to
>> Internet
>> success.https://www.internetsociety.org/issues/internet-way-of-networking/
>> <https://www.internetsociety.org/issues/internet-way-of-networking/>
>>
>> So before moving this document to the next step, I suggest to get some
>> comments from IETFer affiliated with ICANN.
>>
> Well, that has been discussed to death, with Warren Kumari even writing
> RFC 8244 about the *discussion* that we triggered about it in 2013 (!)
> at dnsop and beyond -- including Martin's presentation at ICANN about GNS.
>
> So IMO this is very far outside of the scope of the i18n review, and
> simply another topic that the IAB has decided to punt on (my
> interpretation). So this is a political issue, which we cannot solve
> anymore and will just leave as-is / unresolved / potentially
> conflicting.  The expert reviewers (like Bortzmeyer) are also very well
> aware of the discussion --- it triggered like 1000 e-mails on dnsop back
> in the day...
>
> My 2 cents
>
> Christian