Re: [I18ndir] Review volunteer needed (Fwd: [dispatch] WGLC of draft-ietf-dispatch-javascript-mjs-07)
Pete Resnick <resnick@episteme.net> Wed, 29 April 2020 17:00 UTC
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From: Pete Resnick <resnick@episteme.net>
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Subject: Re: [I18ndir] Review volunteer needed (Fwd: [dispatch] WGLC of draft-ietf-dispatch-javascript-mjs-07)
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Thanks for the quick look over and the heads up. Is anyone willing to take this on? I will shortly start going after individuals. pr On 28 Apr 2020, at 20:41, John C Klensin wrote: > Pete, > > Since some hours have gone by without a response to your message > and I was in need of an excuse to delay getting to an unpleasant > task... > > This note does not constitute either a review or an offer to do > one, but I just took a quick look at RFC 4329 and the diff and, > in a few seconds, found one statement/requirement in 4329 that > is unchanged (although circumstances have) that is an invitation > to a world of grief. In addition, given Section 4.1, the > algorithm in 4.2 (both versions) is incomplete and can result in > a fairly serious error. > > Moreover, if I correctly understand what seems like unnecessary > convoluted text (in both versions) a BOM is ignored in further > processing if the character encoding scheme is determined to be > UTF-8 in 4.2(2) or 4.2(3) but not ignored if charset="UTF-8" is > present and the BOM occurs anyway (something clearly allowed by > RFC 3629). That doesn't appear to make sense. If it was > intended, enough of an explanation would be in order that the > reader does not concluded it is just a mistake in the document > (I notice the I-D already corrected a mistake in 4329). So, > having spent five minutes with 4329 and the diff and another > five writing this note, I can say with some confidence that the > I-D needs work and that someone is going to need to work with > the document authors to explain the issues, some of which are > substantive, not just text in need of tuning, and sort things > out. You may be looking for a volunteer to do that job, not > just an early reviewer. > > Back to lurking. > john > > > > > --On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 14:14 -0500 Pete Resnick > <resnick@episteme.net> wrote: > >> Folks, >> >> DISPATCH has made a working group last call on >> draft-ietf-dispatch-javascript-mjs. Given how much i18n >> content there is, the ADs and chairs agreed that an early >> review wouldn't hurt. There is a bunch of text about formal >> programming languages in this draft, so I didn't want to just >> stick somebody with it. Anyone feel comfortable enough to take >> on a review? >> >> Note that the review itself is much less horrible than it >> seems. This is really a -bis draft of RFC 4329, and most of >> the i18n language in here is unchanged from 4329. See: >> >> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url1=rfc4329&url2=draft-ietf-disp >> atch-javascript-mjs-07 >> >> So it's really just reviewing any changes, and making sure >> that nothing absolutely egregious was in 4329 itself. >> >> Thanks, >> >> pr >> >> Forwarded message: >> >>> From: Ben Campbell <ben@nostrum.com> >>> To: DISPATCH WG <dispatch@ietf.org> >>> Cc: dispatch chairs <dispatch-chairs@ietf.org>, ART ADs >>> <art-ads@ietf.org>, >>> draft-ietf-dispatch-javascript-mjs@ietf.org Subject: >>> [dispatch] WGLC of draft-ietf-dispatch-javascript-mjs-07 >>> Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2020 14:24:47 -0500 >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> This is a repeat working group last call of >>> draft-ietf-dispatch-javascript-mjs-07. >>> >>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dispatch-javascri >>> pt-mjs/ >>> >>> The new version has changed quite a bit due to feedback from >>> the first WGLC, shepherd feedback, and feedback from others. >>> In particular, this version obsoletes RFC 4329, rather than >>> updating as did the version from the first WGLC. >>> >>> This WGLC will end on 8 May 20202. Please send feedback to >>> the DISPATCH list and the authors. And if you review the >>> document and think it's ready to go, please say so. >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> Ben -- Pete Resnick https://www.episteme.net/ All connections to the world are tenuous at best
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