[I18ndir] FWD: Comments on draft-klensin-idna-rfc5891bis (Freytag-> Hollenbeck)
John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com> Fri, 17 July 2020 22:56 UTC
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Subject: [I18ndir] FWD: Comments on draft-klensin-idna-rfc5891bis (Freytag-> Hollenbeck)
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And Asmus's response to Scott. Again, further discussion on this list please. john ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Date: Friday, July 17, 2020 12:55 -0700 From: Asmus Freytag <asmus@unicode.org> To: "Hollenbeck, Scott" <shollenbeck@verisign.com>, john-ietf@jck.com Cc: barryleiba@computer.org, alissa@cooperw.in Subject: Re: draft-klensin-idna-rfc5891bis On 7/17/2020 8:45 AM, Hollenbeck, Scott wrote: > John, Asmus: sorry for this coming very late in the review > process, but earlier this week I had some of the product > people at Verisign express some concern with a few snippets of > text in the subject document. They're along the lines of > Alyssa's discuss, so I've cc'd her and Barry as the sponsoring > AD as well. I'd like to ask you to consider a few text change > proposals. ==> looks like none of these proposed changes affect the core message of the ID ("know what you are doing") and some read better. > > OLD: > 4. Considerations for Domains Operated Primarily for the > Financial Benefit of the Registry Owner or Operator > Organization > > NEW: > 4. Considerations for Domain Name Registry Operators and > Registry Operator Service Providers ==> Haven't had a chance to see review this in context. Generally shorter is better; would this need the word "commercial" inserted before "Domain" to properly capture the scope of "4." ? If so, then with that tweak it would work for me. > > OLD: > Zones operating primarily as all or part of a business of > selling names for the financial benefit of entities > responsible for the registry > > NEW: > Zones operating primarily as all or part of a commercial > domain name registry ==> I think is snappier and implies the same. > > OLD: > By contrast, in a zone in which the profits are derived > exclusively, or almost exclusively, from selling or reserving > (including "blocking") names, there may be perceived > incentives to register whatever names would-be registrants > "want" or fears that any restrictions will cut into the > available namespace. In such situations, restrictions are > unlikely to be applied unless they meet at least one of two > criteria: (i) they are easy to apply and can be applied > algorithmically or otherwise automatically and/or (ii) there > is clear evidence that the particular label would cause harm. > > NEW: > By contrast, in a zone in which the revenues are derived from > registering names, there may be perceived incentives to be > less conservative regarding some of the restrictions discussed > above in this document. In such situations, restrictions are > unlikely to be applied unless they meet at least one of the > two criteria: (i) there are easy to apply and can be applied > algorithmically or otherwise automatically and/or (ii) there > is clear evidence that the particular label would cause harm. > > Do these change proposals work for you? ==> I think this change is an improvement. (Even if it loses the mention of "blocking", which was a bit of a digression in my view). > > Scott ---------- End Forwarded Message ----------
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