Re: [I18ndir] I18ndir early review of draft-ietf-dispatch-javascript-mjs-07

Patrik Fältström <patrik@frobbit.se> Sun, 10 May 2020 04:49 UTC

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From: Patrik Fältström <patrik@frobbit.se>
To: John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com>
Cc: Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org>, John R Levine <johnl@taugh.com>, Myles Borins <mylesborins@google.com>, DISPATCH WG <dispatch@ietf.org>, draft-ietf-dispatch-javascript-mjs.all@ietf.org, i18ndir@ietf.org
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Subject: Re: [I18ndir] I18ndir early review of draft-ietf-dispatch-javascript-mjs-07
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On 9 May 2020, at 22:28, John C Klensin wrote:

> +1, fwiw.

Agree

>    john
>
>
> --On Saturday, May 9, 2020 14:36 -0400 Barry Leiba
> <barryleiba@computer.org> wrote:
>
>>> It occurs to me that http clients can send an Accept header,
>>> so how about saying that modules SHOULD be text/jsmodule, but
>>> MAY be text/javascript for backward compatibiltiy with
>>> clients that don't handle text/jsmodule?
>>
>> I'm very much not fond of the SHOULD... but MAY construction,
>> because I think the MAY contradicts the SHOULD.
>>
>> I think the right way to say this is more along the line of
>> "SHOULD use text/jsmodule.  If that is not practical because
>> backward compatibility with clients that do not support
>> text/jsmodule is necessary, then the alternative MUST be
>> text/javascript."
>>
>> Barry