Re: [I18ndir] Review volunteer needed (Fwd: [dispatch] WGLC of draft-ietf-dispatch-javascript-mjs-07)

Asmus Freytag <asmusf@ix.netcom.com> Thu, 30 April 2020 06:44 UTC

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Pete,

not comfortable doing that, even if I had the time slice - there are 
some things about the matrix in which these i18n questions are embedded 
that I'm not as grounded in as would be a precondition for this task.

A./



On 4/29/2020 9:38 PM, Pete Resnick wrote:
> On 29 Apr 2020, at 23:17, John C Klensin wrote:
>
>> It seem to me that we are straying into doing the design (or
>> redesign) work that is the responsibility of the WG.  Explaining
>> the problem to the WG and suggesting fixes would be entirely
>> reasonable.   Trying to convince each other, IMO, a lot less so.
>
> I think that's pretty much right. Does anybody on the list think they 
> can summarize this discussion of the problems and suggestions 
> sufficiently for the WG to take some action? If I don't hear from 
> anyone, I'll start accosting people privately.
>
> pr