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Re: [I18nrp] Mappings for IDNA2008 ?

Patrik Fältström <paf@frobbit.se> Fri, 08 February 2019 08:31 UTC

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Subject: Re: [I18nrp] Mappings for IDNA2008 ?
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> On 8 Feb 2019, at 09:20, Martin J. Dürst <duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp> wrote:
> 
> Hello Patrik, others,
> 
>> On 2019/02/08 16:56, Patrik Fältström wrote:
>>> On 5 Feb 2019, at 18:09, Asmus Freytag wrote:
>>> 
>>> OK, if you make the choice that all of this should happen, then what?
>>> 
>>> You'll have to use some tables / algorithm to do the mapping. Even when locale dependent (notionally) you have 90%+ of all cases that are unchanged and some small subset would get adjusted (tailored).
>>> 
>>> That makes providing generic mapping tables useful.
>> 
>> I can as well say it is completely useless for the cases where the mapping *IS* special.
> 
> I don't understand the last sentence. If we take the case of Turkish, 
> then the generic mapping tables are useful because once we have them, a 
> suitable Turkish mapping can be defined as a small delta (e.g. a small 
> preprocessing step) to the generic mapping tables.

lowerCase($string) delivers different result for some strings depending on LOCALE.

That’s what I mean.

   Patrik

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