Re: [I18nrp] Conservatism principle doesn't go far enough

"John R Levine" <johnl@taugh.com> Fri, 01 February 2019 02:54 UTC

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Subject: Re: [I18nrp] Conservatism principle doesn't go far enough
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> numbers in a different context.  But Larry's assertion, at least
> as I understood it, was a little different and asserted that one
> would not want to register a domain name that wouldn't be
> displayed properly by a major browser).  For that assertion, the
> "non-contracted parties" count.

Oh, no disagreement there.  I hardly need to tell you that the 
relationship between some ccTLDs and ICANN (and in some cases, everyone 
else) can be fraught.

R's,
John