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Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@mozilla.com> Mon, 08 October 2018 21:28 UTC

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Subject: Re: [I18nrp] draft-faltstrom-unicode11-04.txt
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On 10/6/18 11:53 PM, Patrik Fältström wrote:
> All,
> 
> Version -04 of this draft was just posted.
> 
> Background: As we all know IDNA2008 is an algorithm that applied to Unicode gives a subset of code points which are permissible for in turn registries and others to create subsets from to be used in their respective policies.
> 
> Being the appointed expert for the IANA registry I have flagged for IAB changes made to Unicode that I feel must be discussed in IETF, and here is the document with my proposal (details are in the draft).
> 
> In short the draft proposes (just like RFC 6452) IETF continue to follow Unicode Standard without adding exceptions to the IDNA2008 algorithm, EVEN IF changes are made that are incompatible to earlier versions of Unicode.
> 
> The choices for IETF when things like this happens are:
> 
> 1. Keep IDNA2008 with no exceptions
> 
> 2. Keep IDNA2008 with exceptions
> 
> 3. Stop referring (directly) to Unicode as it is not stable enough
> 
> Probably more choices than these...
> 
> My proposal is [1], together with a more forceful push to strict IDNA2008 adoption. No IDNA2003, no UTS#46, no homebrew mixes. Including that registries really do a careful conservative selection of code points to be used in whatever context it is to be used.
> 
> 
> The problem though is that this is *my* view. Sure, a few others have randomly and "by pure luck" told me "this is ok".

That seems like the best path forward.

> But is this a stable informed decision by IETF?

Not yet.

> This very fast turn into a process issue where IAB have asked for progress, and IETF is to deliver.
> 
> And this is where I take a step back, and want IESG and IAB to make up their mind. This group was created for I18N issues, we have a charter, but then what? Is this where drafts like these should be discussed?

[repost from ART list]

The ADs wanted more detailed plans for (a) recruiting and training of
directorate members and (b) day-to-day operations. I asked the ADs for
clarification about what level of detail they wanted, but I could have
just proposed a plan to see if it was detailed enough for them. I'll
reprioritize to get this done more quickly.

Peter

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