Re: [I2nsf] WGLC and IPR poll for draft-ietf-i2nsf-capability-data-model

Yoav Nir <ynir.ietf@gmail.com> Thu, 06 June 2019 04:12 UTC

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Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2019 07:12:00 +0300
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Cc: "Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong" <jaehoon.paul@gmail.com>, Linda Dunbar <dunbar.ll@gmail.com>, "i2nsf@ietf.org" <i2nsf@ietf.org>, Joonsuk Kim <kjs0317@skku.edu>, skku_secu-brain_all@googlegroups.com
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Subject: Re: [I2nsf] WGLC and IPR poll for draft-ietf-i2nsf-capability-data-model
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There’s a bunch of disclosures with those terms. 

We’ll start a thread about this later today.

> On 6 Jun 2019, at 6:53, Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca> wrote:
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> On Jun 5, 2019, at 23:05, Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong <jaehoon.paul@gmail.com <mailto:jaehoon.paul@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Linda and Yoav,
>> As a coauthor, I am aware of an IPR about this draft as below:
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/3556/ <https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/3556/> 
> 
> This is very unfortunate:
> 
> “Reasonable and Non-Discriminatory License to All Implementers with Possible Royalty/Fee”
> 
> The word “possible” is a real problem here. How will the WG address this issue? Or will this prevent the document from moving forward ?
> 
> Paul