Re: [I2nsf] IPR Statements about I2NSF documents

Hi Diego and I2NSF WG,
My university SKKU is considering the terms about the IPR that will be
similar to
those in https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2611/ .

When they finalize the terms, I will let you know.

Thanks for your considerations.

Best Regards,
Paul

On Sat, Jun 8, 2019 at 9:10 PM Diego R. Lopez <diego.r.lopez@telefonica.com>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
>
> Since I replied to this in another thread, let me remark again my
> position.
>
>
>
> The terms stated in the claims concern me. If the claimer could change the
> terms into something similar to those in
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2611/ that would clear my concerns.
>
>
>
> Be goode,
>
>
>
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> On 06/06/2019, 19:27, "I2nsf on behalf of Yoav Nir" <
> i2nsf-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of ynir.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi
>
>
>
> Yesterday we got 5 IPR statements ([1], [2], [3], [4], [5]) related to the
> following drafts respectively:
>
> ·
>
> ·         draft-ietf-i2nsf-nsf-facing-interface-dm
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> ·         draft-ietf-i2nsf-nsf-monitoring-data-model
>
> ·         draft-ietf-i2nsf-capability-data-model
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> ·         draft-ietf-i2nsf-registration-interface-dm
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> ·         draft-ietf-i2nsf-consumer-facing-interface-dm
>
>
>
> All of these are WG documents, and one of them (the capability data model
> draft) is in WGLC.  See [6] and RFC 8179 for more information about IPR
> disclosures.
>
>
>
> All the disclosures claim that the patents or patent applications
> mentioned may be necessary for implementation of the drafts. Neither the
> chairs nor anyone else in the IETF is considered competent to evaluate such
> claims or the validity of any patents, so I suggest that in this thread we
> avoid bringing this up. What may be concerning is that the licensing policy
> for these disclosures is "Reasonable and Non-Discriminatory License to All
> Implementers with Possible Royalty/Fee”, which makes such technologies
> problematic to many implementers, especially non-commercial ones.
>
>
>
> To quote from section 7 of RFC 8179:
>
>    In general, IETF working groups prefer technologies with no known IPR
>
>    claims or, for technologies with claims against them, an offer of
>
>    royalty-free licensing.  However, to solve a given technical problem,
>
>    IETF working groups have the discretion to adopt a technology as to
>
>    which IPR claims have been made if they feel that this technology is
>
>    superior enough to alternatives with fewer IPR claims or free
>
>    licensing to outweigh the potential cost of the licenses.
>
>
>
>
>
> So this message is to start a discussion about how the I2NSF working group
> would like to handle this disclosure. Continuing as before and moving to
> publication is the default outcome of this discussion, but the WG is
> required to evaluate its position about these disclosures. This is what
> this thread is for.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
>
>
> Linda & Yoav
>
>
>
> [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/3553/
>
> [2] https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/3557/
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> [3] https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/3556/
>
> [4] https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/3555/
>
> [5] https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/3554/
>
> [6] https://www.ietf.org/standards/ipr/
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