Re: [I2nsf] Magnus Westerlund's Discuss on draft-ietf-i2nsf-capability-data-model-12: (with DISCUSS)

Martin Duke <martin.h.duke@gmail.com> Mon, 28 September 2020 17:42 UTC

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2020 10:42:08 -0700
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Subject: Re: [I2nsf] Magnus Westerlund's Discuss on draft-ietf-i2nsf-capability-data-model-12: (with DISCUSS)
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So do I understand correctly that this is going to defer from next
telechat, and I should review it at a later time?

On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 8:18 AM Roman Danyliw <rdd@cert.org> wrote:

> Hi Magnus!
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: I2nsf <i2nsf-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Magnus Westerlund
> > Sent: Monday, September 28, 2020 10:35 AM
> > To: iesg@ietf.org; shares@ndzh.com
> > Cc: i2nsf@ietf.org; draft-ietf-i2nsf-capability-data-model@ietf.org;
> > dunbar.ll@gmail.com; i2nsf-chairs@ietf.org
> > Subject: Re: [I2nsf] Magnus Westerlund's Discuss on
> draft-ietf-i2nsf-capability-
> > data-model-12: (with DISCUSS)
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Fri, 2020-09-25 at 11:08 -0400, Susan Hares wrote:
> > > Magnus:
> > >
> > > Do you have specific transport people that you have assigned to work
> > > on this review?
> >
> > No, I missed that Roman had deferred this document and tried to look at
> it and
> > was personally unable to review it due to lack of content of what was
> intended.
> > There are not enought there to even understand what the high level
> purpose
> > was for those features related to transport protocol.
> >
> > I think this should be reviewed by a TSVART reviewer. I have requested a
> > review, as this document was unfortuantely missed by the triage.
>
> The I2NSF chairs and I chatted earlier today to define a plan.  I'm going
> to be sending the document back to the WG to digest all of the IESG
> feedback; and define an approach to harmonize the information and data
> model drafts.
>
> When this comes back for IETF LC, I'll request a TSVART reviewer.
>
> Regards,
> Roman
>
> > >
> > > It would probably be more effective to discuss these issues point by
> > > point with the reviewers.
> > > As Paul has indicated, we would like to your issues in the context of
> > > the high level capabilities of this  model.
> >
> > >
> > > Thank you for letting us know you felt it was too high level and did
> > > not have text to map to transport layer values.  Paul and his students
> > > have implemented this to specific transport layer values to our view
> that it
> > > could be implemented.    It is always difficult in a higher level data
> model
> > > to determine how much detail to put in.   We'd love to work this issue
> with
> > > your expert.
> >
> > Yes, I most definitely thought it was only alluding to some function
> related to
> > particular protocol.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Magnus Westerlund
> >
> >
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