Re: [I2rs-proto-dt] couple YANG details

Andy Bierman <andy@yumaworks.com> Fri, 23 October 2015 20:55 UTC

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Subject: Re: [I2rs-proto-dt] couple YANG details
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On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 1:36 PM, Susan Hares <shares@ndzh.com> wrote:

> Andy:
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> Sorry for the delay in responding.
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> Declaring module-level “ephemeral” by declaring the top-node as ephemeral
> is fine.  However,   do you think people will want to query by the module
> library whether a module is ephemeral.
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no - YANG does not need to make rules about what subset of statements
exist in a module. e.g., deviation-stmt is put in a regular YANG module.



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> Sue
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Andy


> *From:* I2rs-proto-dt [mailto:i2rs-proto-dt-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Andy Bierman
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 21, 2015 5:46 PM
> *To:* Susan Hares; i2rs-proto-dt@ietf.org
> *Subject:* [I2rs-proto-dt] couple YANG details
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> Hi,
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> I would like to simplify the draft a bit further.
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> 1) module-level "ephemeral" flag
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> Since the data node flag applies to the entire subtree,
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> it should be simple enough to just require each top-level
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> data node to declare 'ephemeral true' if needed.
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> There are usually 1 - 2 top-level data nodes per module so
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> this is not a burden.  Checking 2 places is too complicated
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> and they can conflict.
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> 2) groupings wrt/ edit overlap
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> YANG already has a way to say what sub-nodes must
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> be present (mandatory=true, min-elements>0).
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> Is this good enough for I2RS?  Can the requirements
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> for the ephemeral version be different than the
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> persistent version, wrt/ mandatory & min-elements?
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