Re: [i2rs] I2RS Interim Meeting - June 1, 2016 - 10:00am - 11:00am -? Topic: Ephemeral State Requirements

["Susan Hares" <[e-mail]>]

Juergen: 

The I2RS architecture document has passed to RFC editor.  Your time to
request the definitions in that document has long past.  If you are asking
for a definition of ephemeral state in the I2RS ephemeral requirements
document, this is a valid comment.  Is this what you are asking for? 

Sue  

-----Original Message-----
From: Juergen Schoenwaelder [mailto:[e-mail]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 8:31 AM
To: Susan Hares
Cc: 'Jeffrey Haas'; [e-mail]; 'Benoit Claise'; 'Alia Atlas'
Subject: Re: [i2rs] I2RS Interim Meeting - June 1, 2016 - 10:00am - 11:00am
-? Topic: Ephemeral State Requirements

OK. So if ephemeral state is the same as ephemeral data, can we simply get
rid of one of the terms?

Still looking for a definition of 'ephemeral operational state' (since I
consider operational state by nature to be ephemeral). And without it, I
can't really resolve the 'defined as' relationships.

/js

On Wed, Jun 01, 2016 at 08:24:34AM -0400, Susan Hares wrote:
> :== is a symbol that translates to defines as.
> 
> Left side :== (defines as) right side info Cat:== animal small furry 
> Sue
> 
> 
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Original message --------From: Juergen Schoenwaelder
<[e-mail]> Date: 6/1/2016  4:25 AM  (GMT-05:00)
To: Susan Hares <[e-mail]> Cc: 'Jeffrey Haas' <[e-mail]>rg>,
[e-mail], 'Benoit Claise' <[e-mail]>om>, 'Alia Atlas'
<[e-mail]> Subject: Re: [i2rs] I2RS Interim Meeting - June 1, 2016
- 10:00am - 11:00am -
>   Topic: Ephemeral State Requirements On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 
> 03:29:55PM -0400, Susan Hares wrote:
> > Juergen: 
> > 
> > 
> > >I understand YANG validation rules and I understand YANG's notion 
> > >of
> > configuration datastores. I do not >think this matches your 
> > ephemeral configuration validation.
> > 
> > This does not provide a technical discussion of: 
> > a) what you understand the ephemeral configuration validation rules 
> > to be,
> > b) why you do not the model matches the configuration validation rules. 
> > 
> > 1 Data Model is a great idea for NETCONF/NETMOD.  However, it should 
> > encompass
> > 
> > Ephemeral data:== ephemeral state ::== Ephemeral configuration + 
> > Ephemeral operational state
> >
> 
> Unless you define what the terms mean and what ::== means I have no 
> clue what you are trying to convey here.
> 
> /js
> 
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