Re: [i2rs] Can I2RS focus on the "Over the Wire" data structure , not on how end point handle the "DataStore"?

Jeffrey Haas <jhaas@pfrc.org> Wed, 01 June 2016 12:30 UTC

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Subject: Re: [i2rs] Can I2RS focus on the "Over the Wire" data structure , not on how end point handle the "DataStore"?
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On Wed, Jun 01, 2016 at 10:39:22AM +0200, Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote:
> I think a client needs to know what it means to modify a certain
> datastore. A client needs to know what validation means. If people
> code against <running>, <indented>, <applied>, <ephemeral> (and there
> are more suggested) and it is undefined how things conceptually relate
> to each other and interact with each other, then I have my doubts this
> will lead to interoperability since systems likely expose rather
> different behavior.

+1

-- Jeff