Re: [i2rs] I2RS Interim Meeting - June 1, 2016 - 10:00am - 11:00am - Topic: Ephemeral State Requirements

Susan Hares <shares@ndzh.com> Wed, 01 June 2016 12:24 UTC

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:== is a symbol that translates to defines as.  

Left side :== (defines as) right side info
Cat:== animal small furry
Sue


Sent via the Samsung Galaxy Note5, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone-------- Original message --------From: Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de> Date: 6/1/2016  4:25 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: Susan Hares <shares@ndzh.com> Cc: 'Jeffrey Haas' <jhaas@pfrc.org>, i2rs@ietf.org, 'Benoit Claise' <bclaise@cisco.com>, 'Alia Atlas' <akatlas@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [i2rs] I2RS Interim Meeting - June 1, 2016 - 10:00am - 11:00am -
  Topic: Ephemeral State Requirements 
On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 03:29:55PM -0400, Susan Hares wrote:
> Juergen: 
> 
> 
> >I understand YANG validation rules and I understand YANG's notion of
> configuration datastores. I do not >think this matches your ephemeral
> configuration validation.
> 
> This does not provide a technical discussion of: 
> a) what you understand the ephemeral configuration validation rules to be, 
> b) why you do not the model matches the configuration validation rules. 
> 
> 1 Data Model is a great idea for NETCONF/NETMOD.  However, it should
> encompass 
> 
> Ephemeral data:== ephemeral state ::== Ephemeral configuration + Ephemeral
> operational state 
>

Unless you define what the terms mean and what ::== means I have no
clue what you are trying to convey here.

/js

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