Re: [i2rs] Ben Campbell's No Objection on draft-ietf-i2rs-yang-dc-fabric-network-topology-08: (with COMMENT)

Ben Campbell <ben@nostrum.com> Wed, 04 April 2018 14:33 UTC

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Subject: Re: [i2rs] Ben Campbell's No Objection on draft-ietf-i2rs-yang-dc-fabric-network-topology-08: (with COMMENT)
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Specifically, Ignas said:

"It is generally true for the context of the overlay but that is not what the document seems to be focusing on. Fabric defines and implements the underlay, not the other way around.”

Note that I specifically did not say I “support the discuss”, only that that I was confused by the terminology issue he mentioned in his discuss.

Thanks,

Ben.


> On Apr 3, 2018, at 9:31 PM, Susan Hares <shares@ndzh.com> wrote:
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> Ben:
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> Could you unpack the "share concern" on definition of fabric comment a bit?
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> Sue
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> Subject: Ben Campbell's No Objection on draft-ietf-i2rs-yang-dc-fabric-network-topology-08: (with COMMENT)
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> COMMENT:
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> I share Ignas's concern about the definition of "fabric". Otherwise, I have a couple of nits:
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> Abstract: Missing article before "Data Center Network".
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> §2: Please use the boilerplate from RFC 8174 rather than rolling your own text to constrain the keywords to their all-caps forms.
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