Re: [i2rs] AD review of draft-ietf-i2rs-ephemeral-state-18

Alia Atlas <akatlas@gmail.com> Wed, 05 October 2016 14:14 UTC

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From: Alia Atlas <akatlas@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2016 10:14:06 -0400
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Cc: Jeff Haas <jhaas@juniper.net>, "i2rs@ietf.org" <i2rs@ietf.org>, Joel Halpern <joel.halpern@ericsson.com>, draft-ietf-i2rs-ephemeral-state@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [i2rs] AD review of draft-ietf-i2rs-ephemeral-state-18
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Sue,

This looks good - thanks.  I will put it into IETF Last Call.

Regards,
Alia

On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 9:19 AM, Susan Hares <shares@ndzh.com> wrote:

> Alia:
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> I’ve updated version 19 with the changes. The only change I did not
> implement was to combine section 5 and 6.   The NETCONF group asked us not
> to combine these two sections.  I left these two sections intact.   Does
> this work for you?
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> Sue
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> *From:* Alia Atlas [mailto:akatlas@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 4, 2016 10:37 PM
> *To:* i2rs@ietf.org; draft-ietf-i2rs-ephemeral-state@ietf.org
> *Subject:* AD review of draft-ietf-i2rs-ephemeral-state-18
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> Hi,
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> As is customary, I have done my AD review of draft-ietf-i2rs-ephemeral-state-18.
> First, I would like to thank Sue and Jeff for their hard work pulling this
> document together in an effort to add clarity to the requirements.
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>
> I do have a number of comments - many relatively minor.  Assuming a fast
> turn-around, as usual from I2RS, we should be able to have this on the Oct
> 27 telechat - which will mean it needs to enter IETF Last Call before the
> end of this week.
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>
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> Here is my review:
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> Major:
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> 1) Ephemeral-REQ-12:  This specifies that a notification be sent to the
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> original client, regardless of whether it won or lost the priority
> collision.
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> I had assumed that the notification would go to either the requesting
> client
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> or the original client depending on which one lost the priority comparison.
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> I have some concerns about an indirect flood of notifications caused by a
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> requesting client that has the lower priority.  Regardless, clarifying that
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> the lower-priority client is notified is important.
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> Minor:
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> a) Intro: Remove "3 suggest protocol strawman" as something that
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>    the I2RS requirements must do.  I know that is how the process
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>    has been working out - but it isn't dictated by the technology
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>    at all - as the other 2 are.  Similarly, replace the following
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>    paragraph "The purpose of these requirements and the suggested
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>    protocol strawman is to provide a quick turnaround on creating
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>    the I2RS protocol." with something like "The purpose of these
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>    requirements is to ensure clarity during I2RS protocol creation."
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> b) Section 2:  "The following are ten requirements that [RFC7921]
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>    contains which provide context for the ephemeral data state
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>    requirements given in sections 3-8:"
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>       How about "The following are requirements distilled from [RFC7921]
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>      that provide context for..."
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>     1)  Not relevant for ephemeral - this matters for pub/sub (suggest
> removal)
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>     2)  Relevant for ephemeral b/c of vague performance requirements on
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>         possible solutions.
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>     3)  What changes if the data model is protocol dependent?  Is this
> just that
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>         the model may be an augmentation/extension of an existing module?
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>     4)  Absolutely - keep
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>     5)  Absolutely - keep
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>     6)  Remove - not relevant for ephemeral just security requirements
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>     7)  Remove - not relevant for ephemeral just security requirements
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>     8)  Absolutely - keep (but says storing secondary identity on deletion
> when
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>         that isn't mentioned for (4) b/c it's about priority - so clarify
> slightly)
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>     9)  Absolutely - keep
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>    10)  Remove - not relevant for ephemeral
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>
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> c) Sec 3.3 bullet 2:  This refers to YANG data model instead of YANG
> module as
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>    in bullet 1.  If there's a reason for the difference, please clarify
> and otherwise
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>    make consistent.
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> d) Sec 5 & 6 for NETCONF and RESTCONF are the same requirements.  Please
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> consolidate into a section of "The changes to NETCONF and the conceptual
> changes to RESTCONF are"
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> e) Sec 8:  I found this pull-out unclear.  "multiple operations in one
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>       or more messages; though errors in
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>       message or operation will have no effect on other messages or
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>       commands even they are related."
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>      I think you mean "Multiple operations in one message can be sent.
> However
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>      an error in one operation MUST NOT stop additional operations from
> being
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>      carried out nor can it cause previous operations in the same message
> to
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>      be rolled back."
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> Nits:
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> i) Abstract: "attempting to meet I2RS needs has to provide"/
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> "attempting to meet the needs of I2RS has to provide"
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> ii) 3.2: "MPLS LSP-ID or BGP IN-RIB"  please expand acronyms
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> iii) Sec 5 last sentence:  Either missing a ( or has an unneeded ).
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> iv) Ephemeral-REQ-11:  "I2RS Protocol I2RS Protocol" repeated
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>