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Re: [i2rs] I2RS Interim Meeting - June 1, 2016 - 10:00am - 11:00am -? Topic: Ephemeral State Requirements

Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de> Wed, 01 June 2016 12:31 UTC

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From: Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de>
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Subject: Re: [i2rs] I2RS Interim Meeting - June 1, 2016 - 10:00am - 11:00am -? Topic: Ephemeral State Requirements
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OK. So if ephemeral state is the same as ephemeral data, can we simply
get rid of one of the terms?

Still looking for a definition of 'ephemeral operational state' (since
I consider operational state by nature to be ephemeral). And without
it, I can't really resolve the 'defined as' relationships.

/js

On Wed, Jun 01, 2016 at 08:24:34AM -0400, Susan Hares wrote:
> :== is a symbol that translates to defines as.  
> 
> Left side :== (defines as) right side info
> Cat:== animal small furry
> Sue
> 
> 
> Sent via the Samsung Galaxy Note5, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone-------- Original message --------From: Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de> Date: 6/1/2016  4:25 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: Susan Hares <shares@ndzh.com> Cc: 'Jeffrey Haas' <jhaas@pfrc.org>, i2rs@ietf.org, 'Benoit Claise' <bclaise@cisco.com>, 'Alia Atlas' <akatlas@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [i2rs] I2RS Interim Meeting - June 1, 2016 - 10:00am - 11:00am -
>   Topic: Ephemeral State Requirements 
> On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 03:29:55PM -0400, Susan Hares wrote:
> > Juergen: 
> > 
> > 
> > >I understand YANG validation rules and I understand YANG's notion of
> > configuration datastores. I do not >think this matches your ephemeral
> > configuration validation.
> > 
> > This does not provide a technical discussion of: 
> > a) what you understand the ephemeral configuration validation rules to be, 
> > b) why you do not the model matches the configuration validation rules. 
> > 
> > 1 Data Model is a great idea for NETCONF/NETMOD.  However, it should
> > encompass 
> > 
> > Ephemeral data:== ephemeral state ::== Ephemeral configuration + Ephemeral
> > operational state 
> >
> 
> Unless you define what the terms mean and what ::== means I have no
> clue what you are trying to convey here.
> 
> /js
> 
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Juergen Schoenwaelder           Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH
Phone: +49 421 200 3587         Campus Ring 1 | 28759 Bremen | Germany
Fax:   +49 421 200 3103         <http://www.jacobs-university.de/>

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