Re: IAFA templates: a user's comment
Thomas Krichel <ecs1tk@surrey.ac.uk> Fri, 24 March 1995 08:07 UTC
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Subject: Re: IAFA templates: a user's comment
To: "Jon P. Knight" <J.P.Knight@lut.ac.uk>
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 1995 08:05:02 +0000
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Jon Knight writes: > Author-Name-v2: Leonid Rostrywizkdgt > Author-Email-v2: L.Rostrywizkdgt@querty.edu > Author-Job-Title-v2: Spelling Advisor > Author-Department-v2: Spelling and Grammer > Author-Work-Postal-v2: TypeRight Ltd, Clickerty Street, London, UK. But what if poor Leonid has two employers? Would we write Author-Department-v2-v1: Spelling and Grammer Author-Department-v2-v2: Slug and Lettuce Certainly we could not write Author-Department-v3: because with two authors and three workplaces, it would be impossible to see for the user who works where. Note that the situation of multiple affiliation is quite common in Economics. Many of the top people not only work for a University Department but are also affiliated to a research organisation. These people must mention these cos they are proud of it. One solution I can see is to repeat the field, such as to say: Author-Department-v2: Spelling and Grammer Author-Department-v2: Slug and Lettuce This could also solve the problem that I used as a second example, where I wrote: ToK> URL-v0-p1: ftp://highgate.london.uk/manifest.nroff ToK> URL-v0-p2: ftp://highgate.london.uk/manifest.gif ToK> URL-v1-p1: ftp://highgate.london.uk/manifest.txt ToK> URL-v1-p2: ftp://highgate.london.uk/manifest.gif so therefore I would repeat the URL's for the second entry: URL-v0: ftp://highgate.london.uk/manifest.nroff URL-v0: ftp://highgate.london.uk/manifest.gif URL-v1: ftp://highgate.london.uk/manifest.txt URL-v1: ftp://highgate.london.uk/manifest.gif Would the gurus assembled here accept this as good practice? Note that it would make a problem when it comes to describe the format of a variants, because the component of a variant could be in a different form, as suggested in this example. Format-v0: nroff Format-v0: gif Format-v1: ASCII Format-v1: gif The problem with this is that the position of the fields becomes imporant. Imagine Format-v0: gif URL-v0: ftp://highgate.london.uk/manifest.nroff Format-v0: nroff URL-v0: ftp://highgate.london.uk/manifest.gif What is the gif and what is the nroff file? Some fool could have given the gif the ending nroff! > Note that some fields in the cluster may be blank and they're all plaintext > so having things like ``and'' to join the entries together gets messy (and > the things like ``Spelling and Grammer'' in Author-Department-v2 would > screw it up unless there was some form of and-escaping). Why not replace the and linking components with a +? OK, C++ Inc would make a problem, but then again I can think of very few organisations that that have a + sign in the name. > > The word "abstract" would be better suited when we describe documents, > > rather then talking about "description". I would suggest to allow > > the word abstract as a synonym for description otherwise we will > > have a hard time convincing people to give up on the word abstract. > > Hmm, careful: abstract!=description. I think Abstract should be a > separate field that is the abstract provided by the author of the resource > the template is pointing to. In my mind Description is something that the > template creator usually generates that provides useful meta information > (eg: ``This document is part of a series of 16 technical reports by the > same authors that should all be read together''). Adding a new field is a > low overhead way of handling this. Fields are cheap after all :-) Yes, but if everybody creates their own fields, chaos would result. I think that this distinction between description and abstract should be made clear in the document, and the term description may be replaced by comment to mean any comment of the author. That is a field we are using with WoPEc at the moment. Cheers, Thomas Krichel mailto::T.Krichel@surrey.ac.uk http://netec.mcc.ac.uk/~lgecstk/ToK.html
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