[Ianaplan] Off topic Re: What are the RIRs doing?

"Leslie Daigle (TCE)" <ldaigle@thinkingcat.com> Mon, 08 September 2014 22:44 UTC

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Subject: [Ianaplan] Off topic Re: What are the RIRs doing?
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I agree with Stephen's assessment, below.

At some magical moment in the last 48H, this became an IETF WG mailing 
list.  It has a specific purpose -- to move us forward on this WG's 
chartered work (which Jari posted a couple of days ago).

Let's move on.

Thanks,
Leslie.

On 9/8/14 3:37 PM, Stephen Farrell wrote:
>
> Seems to me that telling the RIRs how to run their internal
> processes on an IETF list is fairly radically misdirected.
> The original post was useful. If the output from the RIR's
> process ends up odd or if that process turns out odd then
> maybe that'd be interesting to discuss on this list. But
> admonishments like that below seem out of place here. I'd
> say go find an RIR list and send mail there would be the
> thing to do if one is concerned with RIR processes.
>
> S.
>
> On 08/09/14 20:23, Milton L Mueller wrote:
>> There should and must be a global process, so that all members of the addressing community can discuss options directly with each other, not filtered or managed by the RIRs in their region.
>>
>> Milton L Mueller
>> Laura J and L. Douglas Meredith Professor
>> Syracuse University School of Information Studies
>> http://faculty.ischool.syr.edu/mueller/
>>
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Hans Petter Holen [mailto:hph@oslo.net]
>>> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 3:15 PM
>>> To: Milton L Mueller
>>> Cc: ianaplan@ietf.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Ianaplan] What are the RIRs doing?
>>>
>>> Milton,
>>>
>>> As I read the plan there will be open and public processes inn all the regions
>>> from September to December 2014.
>>>
>>> The RIRs have put together a document describing what is allready in place,
>>> please see https://www.nro.net/about-the-nro/rir-governance-matrix
>>>
>>> Hans Petter Holen
>>> RIPE Chair
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 8. sep. 2014, at 20:58, Milton L Mueller <mueller@syr.edu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Wonderful. The RIRs have decided what they want _without_ convening
>>> an open public process.
>>>>
>>>> Milton L Mueller
>>>> Laura J and L. Douglas Meredith Professor Syracuse University School
>>>> of Information Studies http://faculty.ischool.syr.edu/mueller/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Ianaplan [mailto:ianaplan-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Eliot Lear
>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 9:33 AM
>>>>> To: ianaplan@ietf.org
>>>>> Subject: [Ianaplan] What are the RIRs doing?
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Below is a link to a blog entry that talks about the RIR process for a
>>> response
>>>>> to the RFP[1].  If you go through the slide presentation at the bottom,
>>> Slide 6
>>>>> details the principles they see and the actions they believe they need to
>>>>> take.
>>>>>
>>>>> Eliot
>>>>>
>>>>> [1]
>>>>> http://blog.apnic.net/2014/09/08/iana-session-apnic-38-a-discussion-
>>>>> proposal/
>>>>
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