Re: [Ianaplan] Consensus call -- text reply for ICG proposal review
JFC Morfin <jefsey@jefsey.com> Mon, 24 August 2015 01:12 UTC
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At 18:11 23/08/2015, John C Klensin wrote: >I think the IETF should confine >itself to "endorsing" parts of the proposal that are >specifically consistent with our relationship as a customer of >the IANA function and should be circumspect about anything else, >especially things that could cloud that customer relationship or >put agreements made as part of it in jeopardy. I don't >consider the new text an ideal way to make that distinction, but >I don't have a better solution and it is probably adequate. Dear John, you understand my desillusion with the IAB/IETF. I have tried for 15 years to defend the initial NTIA ballance making business and politics accountable to people and technology. I did it in fighting for a technology being worth what people were entitled to expect for their catenet and their money. Including a reasonable OSI layer six. Today, the market of business/political global communities is supposed to decide of the technology and your last hope is that ICANN is fair with its IETF "customer". I am sorry, this is not the kind of network that I deployed until my lab with its 17 millions of IP addresses (RFC 923) was closed by the NSA - and I kept working on. Experimenting within the limits of my non-profit entity's lack of budget. Now the technology evolution, and the Supreme Court, are permitting me to resume my work at low cost, at the proper stratum, with the same amount of resources I had in 1977, and much more experience. Through the IUsers XLIBRE global community embryo. I wish them/us a better luck for the mankind, I do not really see what the ICANN's IETF customer can really bring us more. I am sorry for that. The very month "they" made me close my Tymnet shop, "they" convened the first IETF meeting (filled with USG contractors). 30 years later-on this will be filled with ICANN contractors. From Google's positions vs. Oracle, and from Windows 10's evaluations, I see that in 1986 public interest won over innovation, what seemed acceptable, but that in 2015 money wins overs public interest. This calls for some happy fews to give a more people friendly try. Anyway, this is now domestic to the ICANN global community's VGN and of no real interest for the XLIBRE community. I am quite sorry for you. However, nothing prevents you to share in the Technological Mutiny (TM)! We call it MutiTech, when technical reality is to take the lead over political concussion (cf. Fadie's friend Dilma). Take care. jfc http://xlibre.net
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