Re: [Ianaplan] Question from the ICG

Eliot Lear <> Tue, 29 September 2015 17:52 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Ianaplan] Question from the ICG
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Greetings Olivier,

On 9/29/15 7:23 PM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond wrote:
> I understand the reticence in "if it ain't broken, don't fix it". The
> recommendation was made by several entities, including the ALAC. We were
> concerned that whilst today there appears to be several informal
> channels, the future might not keep it this way. So we felt that it
> would be a good idea to keep at least a formal channel open so that we
> don't end up with one operational community deciding to split without
> finding a way to keep the three functions operated by the same IANA
> functions operator.
> I'd see it as an opportunity to enhance collaboration between
> operational communities. As individuals we are not immortal. I have no
> idea what the next generations will be like and whether this collegial
> collaboration will continue.

It is certainly the case that we can all do better, but I think we do
reasonably well.

We should keep in mind that some formal mechanisms do exist, even if
they are somewhat loose.  For instance, there is the istar CEO group. 
That group is not always sufficient to the task.  And so there is the
internet collaboration activity.  Both of these have been driven by
ISOC, and it's all institutional.  Personally I expect all of that to
evolve over time, but how I can't say.  And in my experience, when there
is a need the IAB does liaise.  ICANN currently has quite a number of
IETF representatives appointed into various positions, including the
TLG, the board (liaison), RSAC (liason), and I'm sure one or two more. 
Again, I expect all of that to evolve over time, and again I can't say how.

Beyond that, with the RIRs, it is a bit more informal.  But that doesn't
mean communications are bad.  We all see John Curran here, and a few of
us participate in some of their activities, from time to time.   Alvaro
teed up a great outreach partnership with the good folks at LACNIC with
the help of Christian at ISOC.  It'd be good if we could replicate that
elsewhere.  These are real communications whether they are formal or
not.  Many of the formal liaisons twiddle their fingers (having been a
finger twiddler myself) with nothing much to say.  I expect all of that
to evolve over time, but how I cannot say.