Re: [Ianaplan] Updated text Re: Please keep context in mind Re: Consensus call -- text reply for ICG proposal review

"Richard Hill" <rhill@hill-a.ch> Tue, 25 August 2015 05:58 UTC

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From: Richard Hill <rhill@hill-a.ch>
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Subject: Re: [Ianaplan] Updated text Re: Please keep context in mind Re: Consensus call -- text reply for ICG proposal review
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Building on Brian's proposal that the less said, the better, an alternative would be to drop the first sentence altogether, so that the text would read:

“Regarding the draft ICG proposal, the IETF raised two transition points that are mentioned in Paragraph 3062 of the proposal.  We would ask that they be referenced in Part 0, Section V of the proposal as well.”

Best,
Richard



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian E Carpenter [mailto:brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 00:25
> To: Stephen Farrell; Eliot Lear; Richard Hill; Leslie Daigle
> (ThinkingCat); Ianaplan@Ietf. Org
> Cc: Marc Blanchet
> Subject: Re: [Ianaplan] Updated text Re: Please keep context in mind
> Re: Consensus call -- text reply for ICG proposal review
> 
> On 25/08/2015 08:19, Stephen Farrell wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 24/08/15 19:03, Eliot Lear wrote:
> >>
> >> On 8/24/15 7:18 PM, Richard Hill wrote:
> >>>> That's not my point. My point is that this group has not
> considered
> >>>> the other parts of the proposal, nor should it.
> >> Andrew has already responded to you on that point.  And some of us
> >> *have* considered the text on the whole.
> >>
> >
> > I think Eliot is clearly correct here. (Even though I prefer Leslie's
> > text over Eliot's.)
> 
> Concur. The less said, the better, as far as *this WG* is concerned.
> 
> I hope and trust that the IAB will tackle the broader issue, and I
> think the community part of that discussion belongs on ietf@ietf.org.
> 
>     Brian