Re: [Ianaplan] control and negotiation (was Re: draft-ietf-ianaplan-icg-response-02 working group last call)

Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> Tue, 04 November 2014 21:28 UTC

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Peterson, Jon wrote:
>> Somehow, this "oh, if ICANN doesn't do the job, we'll take our ball and
>> move it elsewhere" seems a rather timid attitude and approach.
> No, it's just engineering. We're a body of engineers. If we can solve a
> problem by engineering rather than engaging in politics, it plays to our
> strengths. When we try to assert some authority over governments and
> corporations, then we are playing in a space where we have little traction
> or competence and where we are likely to lose.
>
> Please stop trying to steer us there.
>

We are MORE than a body of engineers.  We are a body that promulgates 
standards that are central to global infrastructure, and we are part of 
a body of contractually defined relationships that define roles and 
responsibilities for how those standards are used and implemented.

The whole point of the NTIA transition process is to clarify, and 
re-align some of those roles and responsibilities when the NTIA contract 
goes away - which has very little to do with engineering, and a whole 
lot to do with "techno-politics."

Please stop trying to deny that, or steer us away from the reality of 
the roles and responsibilities associated with the role the IETF plays.

Miles Fidelman


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