Re: [Ianaplan] Consensus call -- text reply for ICG proposal review
"Richard Hill" <rhill@hill-a.ch> Fri, 21 August 2015 16:16 UTC
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From: Richard Hill <rhill@hill-a.ch>
To: 'Eliot Lear' <lear@cisco.com>, "'Leslie Daigle (ThinkingCat)'" <ldaigle@thinkingcat.com>
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Subject: Re: [Ianaplan] Consensus call -- text reply for ICG proposal review
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The problem is that by supporting the entire proposal you are also taking a position on the names and addressing proposals. And it seems to me that that goes beyond the mandate of this group. Best, Richard > -----Original Message----- > From: Ianaplan [mailto:ianaplan-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Eliot > Lear > Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 18:04 > To: Richard Hill; 'Leslie Daigle (ThinkingCat)' > Cc: 'Ianaplan@Ietf. Org'; 'Marc Blanchet' > Subject: Re: [Ianaplan] Consensus call -- text reply for ICG proposal > review > > I would not be prepared to support this alternative because it is > beyond question (by anyone) that we support our own contribution. What > we also support, I claim, is the overall proposal advancing as it is > sufficient to support the needs of the IETF. > > Eliot > > On 8/21/15 5:16 PM, Richard Hill wrote: > > Dear Leslie, > > > > Thank you for your clarification. It does not change my position > regarding the text that you proposed, because that text refers to the > entire ICG proposal. > > > > I would have no objections to a modified text that makes it clear > that this group is supporting only its part of the ICG proposal. For > example: > > > > “The IETF IANAPLAN working group supports its part of the draft ICG > proposal going forward, but does not comment on the other parts of the > draft ICG proposal. However, the IETF raised two transition points > that are mentioned in Paragraph 3062 of the proposal. We would ask > that they be referenced in Part 0, Section V of the proposal as well.” > > > > Best, > > Richard > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Leslie Daigle (ThinkingCat) [mailto:ldaigle@thinkingcat.com] > >> Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 17:10 > >> To: Richard Hill > >> Cc: Ianaplan@Ietf. Org; Marc Blanchet > >> Subject: Re: [Ianaplan] Consensus call -- text reply for ICG > proposal > >> review > >> > >> Hi Richard, > >> > >> I appreciate that there is much more that can be said about the > >> overall proposal, but please see the note I just sent to the list > >> clarifying the context for our remarks, and let us (the WG) know > your > >> perspective in the light of that context. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Leslie. > >> > >> -- > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> Leslie Daigle > >> Principal, ThinkingCat Enterprises > >> ldaigle@thinkingcat.com > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> On 21 Aug 2015, at 11:01, Richard Hill wrote: > >> > >>> Please note that I do not agree with this. I have many objections > to > >>> the combined ICG proposal, even if not specifically with the > >> protocols > >>> part of that proposal. > >>> > >>> So I object to this. > >>> > >>> Thanks and best, > >>> Richard > >>> > >>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>> From: Ianaplan [mailto:ianaplan-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > >> Leslie > >>>> Daigle (ThinkingCat) > >>>> Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 16:35 > >>>> To: Ianaplan@Ietf. Org > >>>> Cc: Marc Blanchet > >>>> Subject: [Ianaplan] Consensus call -- text reply for ICG proposal > >>>> review > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Hi, > >>>> > >>>> As noted in the minutes from today’s IANAPLAN WG virtual interim > >>>> meeting, participants agreed on a brief message in support of the > >>>> collected ICG proposal. > >>>> > >>>> While the IAB is preparing a wider response, the proposal is that > >> the > >>>> IANAPLAN WG will communicate to the ICG the following message > >> related > >>>> to the IANAPLAN’s work output (part of the IETF contribution): > >>>> > >>>> “The IETF IANAPLAN working group supports the draft ICG proposal > >>>> going forward. The IETF raised two transition points that are > >>>> mentioned in Paragraph 3062 of the proposal. We would ask that > >>>> they be referenced in Part 0, Section V of the proposal as well.” > >>>> > >>>> This message is to confirm WG consensus on the proposed action via > >>>> this e-mail list. All WG participants are encouraged to review > the > >>>> meeting minutes for further elaboration of the discussion around > >> this > >>>> text. > >>>> If > >>>> you have any disagreement with it, please share your comment to > >>>> this list by noon EDT (16h00 UTC) Friday August 28, 2015. > >>>> > >>>> Thanks, > >>>> Leslie, for Leslie&Marc. > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> > >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------ > - > >>>> Leslie Daigle > >>>> Principal, ThinkingCat Enterprises > >>>> ldaigle@thinkingcat.com > >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------ > - > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Ianaplan mailing list > >>>> Ianaplan@ietf.org > >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ianaplan > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Ianaplan mailing list > >>> Ianaplan@ietf.org > >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ianaplan > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Ianaplan mailing list > > Ianaplan@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ianaplan >
- [Ianaplan] Consensus call -- text reply for ICG p… Leslie Daigle (ThinkingCat)
- Re: [Ianaplan] Consensus call -- text reply for I… Richard Hill
- [Ianaplan] Please keep context in mind Re: Consen… Leslie Daigle (ThinkingCat)
- Re: [Ianaplan] Consensus call -- text reply for I… Leslie Daigle (ThinkingCat)
- Re: [Ianaplan] Consensus call -- text reply for I… Richard Hill
- Re: [Ianaplan] Consensus call -- text reply for I… Jari Arkko
- Re: [Ianaplan] Consensus call -- text reply for I… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Ianaplan] Consensus call -- text reply for I… Richard Hill
- Re: [Ianaplan] Consensus call -- text reply for I… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Ianaplan] Consensus call -- text reply for I… Seun Ojedeji
- Re: [Ianaplan] Consensus call -- text reply for I… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Ianaplan] Consensus call -- text reply for I… Richard Hill
- Re: [Ianaplan] Consensus call -- text reply for I… Marc Blanchet
- Re: [Ianaplan] Consensus call -- text reply for I… John C Klensin
- Re: [Ianaplan] Consensus call -- text reply for I… Richard Hill
- Re: [Ianaplan] Consensus call -- text reply for I… Seun Ojedeji
- Re: [Ianaplan] Consensus call -- text reply for I… John C Klensin
- Re: [Ianaplan] Consensus call -- text reply for I… JFC Morfin
- Re: [Ianaplan] Consensus call -- text reply for I… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [Ianaplan] Consensus call -- text reply for I… John C Klensin