Re: [Ianaplan] last call and IESG processing summary for draft-ietf-ianaplan-icg-response
Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com> Thu, 08 January 2015 04:13 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Ianaplan] last call and IESG processing summary for draft-ietf-ianaplan-icg-response
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Sounds like double positive since consensus is a form of agreement. How about: "The WG achieved consensus not to include the recommendations." Cheers! sent from Google nexus 4 kindly excuse brevity and typos. On 7 Jan 2015 20:32, "Brian E Carpenter" <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote: > Try "The WG consensus did not agree with including the recommendations." > > Regards > Brian > > On 08/01/2015 07:05, Milton L Mueller wrote: > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >>> I am afraid this is incorrect. The WG consensus said that it was not > >> necessary to specify the exact supplemental agreements to be negotiated > - > >> that this should be left to the IAOC. My understanding of the document, > and > >> my basis for agreeing to rough consensus, was that the IAOC could pursue > >> these or not, as it saw fit. > >> > >> I think we may be trying to say the same thing. The document discusses > what > >> needs to be achieved. The WG's opinion of what is necessary for the > >> transition. But the WG did not want to put into the document (a) > detailed > >> contractual language as that is an IAOC task or (b) additional requests > >> beyond the ones listed in the document. However, the IAOC certainly is > in > >> charge of all specific contract language already, and will be also in > this case. > >> They will also consider any additional elements that they think will be > useful > >> or needed, as they will always. > > > > Great, this is my understanding, too. So you should modify the > assessment of my comments because they say "The recommendation also states > that the advocated actions are in line with the current IANAPLAN draft. The > IAOC has taken this input for consideration. It should be noted that these > recommendations were discussed as part of the WG deliberations, however. > The WG consensus did not agree with the recommendations." > > > > That's the part that is not correct. > > > > The WG consensus was that there should not be detailed contractual > language in the document, as you say. It did not, however, foreclose or > negate the suggestions I made for future IAOC requests, it simply said that > they should not be specified or required by the IANAPlan document. The IAOC > retains the ability to request them if it thinks it appropriate in the near > term negotiations. > > > > I hope you understand the distinction. It was crucial to achieving rough > consensus. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Ianaplan mailing list > > Ianaplan@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ianaplan > > > > _______________________________________________ > Ianaplan mailing list > Ianaplan@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ianaplan >
- [Ianaplan] last call and IESG processing summary … Jari Arkko
- Re: [Ianaplan] last call and IESG processing summ… Richard Hill
- Re: [Ianaplan] last call and IESG processing summ… JFC Morfin
- Re: [Ianaplan] last call and IESG processing summ… John C Klensin
- Re: [Ianaplan] last call and IESG processing summ… JFC Morfin
- Re: [Ianaplan] last call and IESG processing summ… Jari Arkko
- Re: [Ianaplan] last call and IESG processing summ… Jari Arkko
- Re: [Ianaplan] last call and IESG processing summ… Richard Hill
- Re: [Ianaplan] last call and IESG processing summ… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [Ianaplan] last call and IESG processing summ… JFC Morfin
- Re: [Ianaplan] last call and IESG processing summ… Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: [Ianaplan] last call and IESG processing summ… Jari Arkko
- Re: [Ianaplan] last call and IESG processing summ… JFC Morfin
- Re: [Ianaplan] last call and IESG processing summ… Jari Arkko
- [Ianaplan] ***SPAM*** 21.631 (5) Re: last call an… JFC Morfin
- Re: [Ianaplan] last call and IESG processing summ… Milton L Mueller
- Re: [Ianaplan] last call and IESG processing summ… Jari Arkko
- Re: [Ianaplan] last call and IESG processing summ… Milton L Mueller
- Re: [Ianaplan] last call and IESG processing summ… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Ianaplan] last call and IESG processing summ… Jari Arkko
- Re: [Ianaplan] last call and IESG processing summ… Seun Ojedeji
- Re: [Ianaplan] last call and IESG processing summ… Milton L Mueller
- Re: [Ianaplan] last call and IESG processing summ… Jari Arkko